I made a map. I ran cartograph because I love cartograph and seeing my alpha worlds in isometric projection gives me a happy warm fuzzy feeling inside--but cartograph ALSO prepares a report for me. A report regarding block totals.
Air is in PLENTIFUL supply, at 31,935,390 blocks.
Dirt is Everywhere, at a nice healthy total of 3,226,598 blocks.
Stone is also pretty common, at a total of 29,315,290 blocks.
I am pleased that the surface is populated with 6612 blocks of tree trunk, my favorite renewable resource...
Furthermore, I adore making glass, so my nice hefty 274,568 blocks of sand will likely be very useful,
and if I play my cards right, those 891,372 blocks of gravel will likely keep me in fresh arrowheads for ages to come.
Also it's none too shabby that I've got 306,665 blocks of coal,
134,588 blocks of Iron,
47,689 blocks of Redstone,
14,639 blocks of Gold,
and hell, I've even got 5,927 blocks of Diamond to look forward to, if i'm lucky enough to find them...
BUT THERE ARE, IN GRAND TOTAL, EXACTLY 293 BLOCKS OF CLAY.
CLAY. THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE BRICK. MULTIPLE BLOCKS OF CLAY TO MAKE ONE BLOCK OF BRICK.
WHAT.
THE.
F#@$!
RIDDLE ME THIS, batman--
--WHY IS IT that BRICK, humble BRICK , staple of pan-cultural architecture for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, home to the rich AND the poor, grandfather to structural mechanics EONS past--
--IS HARDER TO MAKE THAN BLOCKS OF WHOLE, SOLID GODDAMN GOLD!?
Furthermore, it's made of clay--BLUE CLAY. BUT THE BRICKS ARE RED!
WHAT THE CRAP.
I'm blowing a whistle here. CLAY is POINTLESS. it is BLOAT.
Brick is made out of wet dirt that is baked. Clay is just a subset of DIRT. WHY are clay and dirt two separate things!? This makes absolutely no sense to me. I've got DIRT coming out of my proverbial EARS, people.
Tell me. WHY can't we just bake blocks of dirt in our furnaces and turn one block into one BRICK apiece, and then turn nine bricks into one block'o'bricks apiece?
I mean...
I mean...
HOW did it ever get as complicated as it already is!?!
1. SEARCH TIRELESSLY ON EVERY
a. RIVERBANK
b. COASTLINE
c. LAKESIDE
FOR EXTREMELY ELUSIVE BLOCKS OF CLAY
2. BREAK CLAY INTO LUMPS
3. BAKE LUMPS INTO BRICKS
4. ASSEMBLE BRICKS INTO BLOCKS
NOW, LOOK AT THIS! It's Beautiful:
1. YOU HAVE LOADS OF DIRT ALREADY. BAKE IT.
2. ASSEMBLE BRICKS INTO BLOCKS.
That's Perfect, and it's a HELL of a lot more like what brick acquisition is really like, not a grueling treasure quest whisking you off on a fantastic journey across the ENTIRE PROPORTIONAL SURFACE AREA OF THE EARTH which you may never ever find your way back to your home from ANYWAYS...
So...
For the love of NOTCH ALMIGHTY, JUST USE DIRT!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--okay rant over.
TL;DR--
Remove clay and make individual bricks by baking dirt blocks instead. Far more feasible, reasonable, and less likely to induce an aneurysm.
Hahahaha, I like that, you made me laugh a bit, mostly because I know exactly what you're on about.
In my entire Minecraftian life I have NEVER EVEREVER found a single block of Clay. Not one!
Therefore, you have my support.
I am so glad I could get a laugh out of you :happy.gif: I was hoping that my humor would not be lost, and it makes my day to know that you found it to your liking! Thank you for the support!
You have my support. While trying to make a brick house, I only needed around 50 blocks. I only found 24 and I spent 4 hours searching for more and ended up getting lost (before compasses came out).
You have my support. While trying to make a brick house, I only needed around 50 blocks. I only found 24 and I spent 4 hours searching for more and ended up getting lost (before compasses came out).
Thank you :happy.gif:
I mean, MAYBE clay will be useful for SOMETHING in the future, but attributing bricks to it is just a pain :sad.gif: I hope you'll have better luck now that there are compasses!
I must agree. Despite Notch repeatedly stating that he'd like to "keep blocks / items unique" due to the limitations of the engine, we have things like this which merely serve a single, cosmetic purpose, and aren't even worth the effort unless you really like the look of brick.
Were clay given more uses (and made more common) it'd be a much more worthy addition to the game. But as it stands, it's just useless.
Wait, there's actually clay in the game? Cool!
But yes, I agree with your Dirt -> Furnace -> Clay -> Furnace -> Brick idea. The reason I didn't include the 9 Part Workbench thing, is because.. Well, what other uses is there (currently) in the game, where you'd need bricks for anything else, than building houses?
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I'm doing fine on clay, and have almost a full stack of clay BLOCKS, in addition to 8 full stacks of brick blocks, and one that's near full.
Just follow shorelines 'til you find some. It's always out in the open and touching water.
I would sig that whole post man... but sadly it doesn't fit!
Right on though, I have NEVER found clay either. It either needs to be more common, or like you said just use dirt. Hell, if mining dirt would drop the occasional clay blob (like gravel drops flint) that would even be cool.
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I'm doing fine on clay, and have almost a full stack of clay BLOCKS, in addition to 8 full stacks of brick blocks, and one that's near full.
Just follow shorelines 'til you find some. It's always out in the open and touching water.
Did you even read the OPs post? He has 293 (or something) blocks of clay on his whole map...
I've got 3 stacks of bricks in my chest, and a small cottage allready built of bricks.
One clay blaock= 4 clay pellets that turn red when "cooked" or "heated" This is what really happens IRL when you heat clay aswell, hence the blue clay and the Red Bricks. 4 bricks make one brick block.
I find that using a boat to travel along the shores and looking for clay among the sand is the easiest way to obtain it, walking around takes you on too many detoures. Sometimes, on large beaches, mowing away the one or 2 top layers of sand, will take you to a clay cache.
Its not all that exclusive, you simply need to know where to look. And I suspect using carthograph alters the basis of the world being created somehow? Maybe it interfeers with previous updates, because I have never had any problem finding it, and I've got many "worlds" with themes, but got Clay and bricks in all of them.
If this gets passed then the time when people will ask for the removal of gold is near
EDIT:To counter this rant I will only say one thing but explain it too
Zombies
If you are going to remove clay then remove zombies too.
Why you ask?Well because there are chickens that drop feather and are also more easily accessible
But wait,zombies are the only melee humanoids!
then why dont we change skeletons to do the melee fighting too.You know because it would save space and skeletons would be easily accessible too
The OP said... clay is basically dirt. Why have two things that are the same? Use dirt instead of clay...
Learn to English.
~Sol
Ai ai ai ai.
Read my full post
and then yours and then mine again
I stated clay should stay
He stated clay should be removed and then you stated that he never stated that clay should be removed
and then I quoted you that I and said be more attentive and then quoted the main post where it stated clay should be removed.Are you having some kind of personal vendetta against me because I disagreed in your needs thread?
The OP said... clay is basically dirt. Why have two things that are the same? Use dirt instead of clay...
Learn to English.
~Sol
Ai ai ai ai.
Read my full post
and then yours and then mine again
I stated clay should stay
He stated clay should be removed and then you stated that he never stated that clay should be removed
and then I quoted you that I and said be more attentive and then quoted the main post where it stated clay should be removed.Are you having some kind of personal vendetta against me because I disagreed in your needs thread?
I said, essentially
Meaning... he said that clay blocks should be removed, but not specifically clay itself. Dirt would be used as clay instead (which makes perfect sense) to make bricks... therefore, clay is not really removed is it? It is, but it isn't...
Also, no personal vendetta. You can disagree with me all you like. Just back up your side of the debate with some points (like just now) and it's all good. I hate nothing more than a baseless argument.
!!!WARNING!!!
-RANT AHEAD-
I hate clay.
I'll tell you why I hate clay.
I made a map. I ran cartograph because I love cartograph and seeing my alpha worlds in isometric projection gives me a happy warm fuzzy feeling inside--but cartograph ALSO prepares a report for me. A report regarding block totals.
Air is in PLENTIFUL supply, at 31,935,390 blocks.
Dirt is Everywhere, at a nice healthy total of 3,226,598 blocks.
Stone is also pretty common, at a total of 29,315,290 blocks.
I am pleased that the surface is populated with 6612 blocks of tree trunk, my favorite renewable resource...
Furthermore, I adore making glass, so my nice hefty 274,568 blocks of sand will likely be very useful,
and if I play my cards right, those 891,372 blocks of gravel will likely keep me in fresh arrowheads for ages to come.
Also it's none too shabby that I've got 306,665 blocks of coal,
134,588 blocks of Iron,
47,689 blocks of Redstone,
14,639 blocks of Gold,
and hell, I've even got 5,927 blocks of Diamond to look forward to, if i'm lucky enough to find them...
BUT THERE ARE, IN GRAND TOTAL, EXACTLY 293 BLOCKS OF CLAY.
CLAY. THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE BRICK. MULTIPLE BLOCKS OF CLAY TO MAKE ONE BLOCK OF BRICK.
WHAT.
THE.
F#@$!
RIDDLE ME THIS, batman--
--WHY IS IT that BRICK, humble BRICK , staple of pan-cultural architecture for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, home to the rich AND the poor, grandfather to structural mechanics EONS past--
--IS HARDER TO MAKE THAN BLOCKS OF WHOLE, SOLID GODDAMN GOLD!?
Furthermore, it's made of clay--BLUE CLAY. BUT THE BRICKS ARE RED!
WHAT THE CRAP.
I'm blowing a whistle here. CLAY is POINTLESS. it is BLOAT.
Brick is made out of wet dirt that is baked. Clay is just a subset of DIRT. WHY are clay and dirt two separate things!? This makes absolutely no sense to me. I've got DIRT coming out of my proverbial EARS, people.
Tell me. WHY can't we just bake blocks of dirt in our furnaces and turn one block into one BRICK apiece, and then turn nine bricks into one block'o'bricks apiece?
I mean...
I mean...
HOW did it ever get as complicated as it already is!?!
1. SEARCH TIRELESSLY ON EVERY
a. RIVERBANK
b. COASTLINE
c. LAKESIDE
FOR EXTREMELY ELUSIVE BLOCKS OF CLAY
2. BREAK CLAY INTO LUMPS
3. BAKE LUMPS INTO BRICKS
4. ASSEMBLE BRICKS INTO BLOCKS
NOW, LOOK AT THIS! It's Beautiful:
1. YOU HAVE LOADS OF DIRT ALREADY. BAKE IT.
2. ASSEMBLE BRICKS INTO BLOCKS.
That's Perfect, and it's a HELL of a lot more like what brick acquisition is really like, not a grueling treasure quest whisking you off on a fantastic journey across the ENTIRE PROPORTIONAL SURFACE AREA OF THE EARTH which you may never ever find your way back to your home from ANYWAYS...
So...
For the love of NOTCH ALMIGHTY, JUST USE DIRT!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--okay rant over.
TL;DR--
Remove clay and make individual bricks by baking dirt blocks instead. Far more feasible, reasonable, and less likely to induce an aneurysm.
Thank You :happy.gif:
In my entire Minecraftian life I have NEVER EVER EVER found a single block of Clay. Not one!
Therefore, you have my support.
I am so glad I could get a laugh out of you :happy.gif: I was hoping that my humor would not be lost, and it makes my day to know that you found it to your liking! Thank you for the support!
Thank you :happy.gif:
I mean, MAYBE clay will be useful for SOMETHING in the future, but attributing bricks to it is just a pain :sad.gif: I hope you'll have better luck now that there are compasses!
Were clay given more uses (and made more common) it'd be a much more worthy addition to the game. But as it stands, it's just useless.
But yes, I agree with your Dirt -> Furnace -> Clay -> Furnace -> Brick idea. The reason I didn't include the 9 Part Workbench thing, is because.. Well, what other uses is there (currently) in the game, where you'd need bricks for anything else, than building houses?
Just follow shorelines 'til you find some. It's always out in the open and touching water.
I would sig that whole post man... but sadly it doesn't fit!
Right on though, I have NEVER found clay either. It either needs to be more common, or like you said just use dirt. Hell, if mining dirt would drop the occasional clay blob (like gravel drops flint) that would even be cool.
Did you even read the OPs post? He has 293 (or something) blocks of clay on his whole map...
~Sol
One clay blaock= 4 clay pellets that turn red when "cooked" or "heated" This is what really happens IRL when you heat clay aswell, hence the blue clay and the Red Bricks. 4 bricks make one brick block.
I find that using a boat to travel along the shores and looking for clay among the sand is the easiest way to obtain it, walking around takes you on too many detoures. Sometimes, on large beaches, mowing away the one or 2 top layers of sand, will take you to a clay cache.
Its not all that exclusive, you simply need to know where to look. And I suspect using carthograph alters the basis of the world being created somehow? Maybe it interfeers with previous updates, because I have never had any problem finding it, and I've got many "worlds" with themes, but got Clay and bricks in all of them.
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Since I'm a clay *****, I jizzed.
Did you find a light-grey block around sand that dropped four light-grey blobs when punched? That's called Clay.
EDIT:To counter this rant I will only say one thing but explain it too
Zombies
If you are going to remove clay then remove zombies too.
Why you ask?Well because there are chickens that drop feather and are also more easily accessible
But wait,zombies are the only melee humanoids!
then why dont we change skeletons to do the melee fighting too.You know because it would save space and skeletons would be easily accessible too
Use for different variety of food
Now check out others suggestions
Climbing your @$$ off in minecraft
No way... I <3 my gold armour :biggrin.gif:
Besides, he's not saying "get rid of clay" so much as "clay is dirt, so why do we have two things that are clay... but not?"
~Sol
No offense but,be a bit more attentive
Use for different variety of food
Now check out others suggestions
Climbing your @$$ off in minecraft
To what exactly?
The OP said... clay is basically dirt. Why have two things that are the same? Use dirt instead of clay...
Learn to English.
~Sol
Ai ai ai ai.
Read my full post
and then yours and then mine again
I stated clay should stay
He stated clay should be removed and then you stated that he never stated that clay should be removed
and then I quoted you that I and said be more attentive and then quoted the main post where it stated clay should be removed.Are you having some kind of personal vendetta against me because I disagreed in your needs thread?
Use for different variety of food
Now check out others suggestions
Climbing your @$$ off in minecraft
I said, essentially
Meaning... he said that clay blocks should be removed, but not specifically clay itself. Dirt would be used as clay instead (which makes perfect sense) to make bricks... therefore, clay is not really removed is it? It is, but it isn't...
Also, no personal vendetta. You can disagree with me all you like. Just back up your side of the debate with some points (like just now) and it's all good. I hate nothing more than a baseless argument.
~Sol