I can guarantee that diamond can be broken with a hammer.
Yes it can be broken with a hammer
A basic hammer will do,no need of a sledgehammer or something
I know this because I have seen it in a jewellery shop
Why they did that is out of my grasp
ONTOPIC:
If diamond tools are infinite then why would anyone mine them?
First time a person plays this game his goal is to survive AND mine diamond
So when both the goals are finished he gets bored and makes things and record them and post it on youtube and hence begins the cries of people calling him autistic.....
Ok went too far
I just disapprove
Realilty:
You don't use iron/steel to "break" diamonds - instead you are mining a chunk of stone/softer material around them and taking them to be refined. Real diamonds aren't in pretty cut-shapes either, those are done by jewl crafters in the world. (And how do they do that? you ask, well simply the first tools ever made were from scraps of chunk diamond smashed against one nother, then the diamond tools were used to craft better versions/blades)
Diamonds are not "forever" in either case. I've lost probably 100+ falling into lava and death and not able to recover situations in the game - so having a "tool" last forever woudln't be that bad - I could still lose them to Lava and Time-outs (In fact I have only ever fully broken a D-tool once... lolz)
Back in reality diamonds are some of the hardest substances in the world/universe, very little can scratch them let alone shatter/cut/break them. Go ahead and get a REAL diamond and a hammer and watch it divot your hammer over and over. Diamond = Harder then Steel = Break Steel (or at least dent in it as per hammer/small diamond case)
A more likely scenario is you put a diamond on say concrete. You take a hammer. You smash into the diamond- the diamond scuffs/cuts the hammer and the force from the hammer impales the concrete with a diamond. Congrats, you now have a diamond encrusted concrete bit. (and a crack in your concrete)
Real diamonds can cut glass as well, an infinite amount of times, depending on the Harness/Tool.
What wears out on diamond tools in real life - is not the diamond (unless cutting diamonds or harder substances) but the device Holding the diamond.
You could say the same for Minecraft as well, it's the wooden 'twigs' used to make the handle wearing out, not the diamond tip.
I support longer lasting Diamond and "Iron" tools (or make Steel a makable thing) but definately not "forever lasting".
In the case of the handles breaking on diamond tools, it would be cool if someone made a plugin for a chance to get a "Diamond Pick Top" when it broke though, and you could take 2 sticks and the top and re-make a diamond pick. (only with diamond, and only if broken via normal mining means and not dropped into fire/lava etc)
Diamonds are forever, right? And when we think of diamonds, we often think of how hard they are, and that only diamond can scratch it. And with diamonds and their ore being so uncommon, it doesn't make sense that it will still run out.
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Wrong, diamonds are not forever. After about 7 half-lives, they are functionally carbon.
However, in our lifetime, you won't notice it.
How are diamonds uncommon? There are people who have made houses out of diamond blocks. Entire bloody houses.
So, having infinite diamond tools would add way too many diamonds into the game. No thanks.
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Let's suffice to say I don't think using frickin flint and steel is going to light moss on fire...
Diamonds are forever, right? And when we think of diamonds, we often think of how hard they are, and that only diamond can scratch it. And with diamonds and their ore being so uncommon, it doesn't make sense that it will still run out.
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This would literally break the game. Zero support.
No, if you took your standard claw hammer and beat on a diamond you'd turn it into useless powder. Diamonds are the HARDEST natural substance on earth, but they are rather brittle. Harness is how difficult it is to scratch a material. A claw hammer has significantly greater mass and when you swing it it gains tremendous amounts of kinetic energy. More than enough to powder even a pure diamond. That's not to say that the striking face of the hammer wouldn't get a knick in the process depending on how the diamond was sitting, but the diamond wouldn't stand a chance.
I'm glad someone understands diamond doesn't equal invinicible. Heck, diamonds in minecraft are ridiculously long lasting anyway. You don't see real diamond axes for a reason.
Realilty:
You don't use iron/steel to "break" diamonds - instead you are mining a chunk of stone/softer material around them and taking them to be refined. Real diamonds aren't in pretty cut-shapes either, those are done by jewl crafters in the world. (And how do they do that? you ask, well simply the first tools ever made were from scraps of chunk diamond smashed against one nother, then the diamond tools were used to craft better versions/blades)
Diamonds are not "forever" in either case. I've lost probably 100+ falling into lava and death and not able to recover situations in the game - so having a "tool" last forever woudln't be that bad - I could still lose them to Lava and Time-outs (In fact I have only ever fully broken a D-tool once... lolz)
Back in reality diamonds are some of the hardest substances in the world/universe, very little can scratch them let alone shatter/cut/break them. Go ahead and get a REAL diamond and a hammer and watch it divot your hammer over and over. Diamond = Harder then Steel = Break Steel (or at least dent in it as per hammer/small diamond case)
A more likely scenario is you put a diamond on say concrete. You take a hammer. You smash into the diamond- the diamond scuffs/cuts the hammer and the force from the hammer impales the concrete with a diamond. Congrats, you now have a diamond encrusted concrete bit. (and a crack in your concrete)
Real diamonds can cut glass as well, an infinite amount of times, depending on the Harness/Tool.
What wears out on diamond tools in real life - is not the diamond (unless cutting diamonds or harder substances) but the device Holding the diamond.
You could say the same for Minecraft as well, it's the wooden 'twigs' used to make the handle wearing out, not the diamond tip.
I support longer lasting Diamond and "Iron" tools (or make Steel a makable thing) but definately not "forever lasting".
In the case of the handles breaking on diamond tools, it would be cool if someone made a plugin for a chance to get a "Diamond Pick Top" when it broke though, and you could take 2 sticks and the top and re-make a diamond pick. (only with diamond, and only if broken via normal mining means and not dropped into fire/lava etc)
You don't understand what it means to be the hardest material. It is BRITTLE. It will scratch from nearly nothing, but it shatters at the drop of a hat.
Diamonds are forever, right? And when we think of diamonds, we often think of how hard they are, and that only diamond can scratch it. And with diamonds and their ore being so uncommon, it doesn't make sense that it will still run out.
Haha I love how the OP gave up two pages ago and you guys are still debating this.
On-Topic:
I think the tools should last longer but infinite is overpowered, no matter how you put it.
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A diamond is foverever, unless you heat it too much and it burns into carbon dioxide gas.
I can't believe my eyes.
This is the most overpowered thing on the suggestion forum I have ever seen. The only thing that would best this in the OP scale would be a nuke that destroys 5,000 chunks and is crafted with feathers and sticks.
No support whatsoever.
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"Do we want to be the mediocre brimstone boy, or do we want to be the more-than-enough brimstone man?" - Northernlion
This is an off topic rant, but whatever.
To all those saying that diamonds cannot be broken because they're hard: Hardness does not equal toughness. Diamonds are very brittle, and can be easily broken at certain angles. This is because their molecular structure has certain points where a large amount of molecules line up. Hitting them at these points will cause it to slightly collapse in on itself,and split. A large hammer could easily hit one of these points, quickly reducing the diamond to powder.
OT: Why would you think this is good? The most powerful tool being infinite? Think out your suggestions before you post
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Pointing out fallacies to undermine an argument is also a fallacy...
YOUR FISTS
We need bone picks.
---> vede claimed Notch said this (and it is awesome).
Another use for the skeletons?
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Yes it can be broken with a hammer
A basic hammer will do,no need of a sledgehammer or something
I know this because I have seen it in a jewellery shop
Why they did that is out of my grasp
ONTOPIC:
If diamond tools are infinite then why would anyone mine them?
First time a person plays this game his goal is to survive AND mine diamond
So when both the goals are finished he gets bored and makes things and record them and post it on youtube and hence begins the cries of people calling him autistic.....
Ok went too far
I just disapprove
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Climbing your @$$ off in minecraft
You don't use iron/steel to "break" diamonds - instead you are mining a chunk of stone/softer material around them and taking them to be refined. Real diamonds aren't in pretty cut-shapes either, those are done by jewl crafters in the world. (And how do they do that? you ask, well simply the first tools ever made were from scraps of chunk diamond smashed against one nother, then the diamond tools were used to craft better versions/blades)
Diamonds are not "forever" in either case. I've lost probably 100+ falling into lava and death and not able to recover situations in the game - so having a "tool" last forever woudln't be that bad - I could still lose them to Lava and Time-outs (In fact I have only ever fully broken a D-tool once... lolz)
Back in reality diamonds are some of the hardest substances in the world/universe, very little can scratch them let alone shatter/cut/break them. Go ahead and get a REAL diamond and a hammer and watch it divot your hammer over and over. Diamond = Harder then Steel = Break Steel (or at least dent in it as per hammer/small diamond case)
A more likely scenario is you put a diamond on say concrete. You take a hammer. You smash into the diamond- the diamond scuffs/cuts the hammer and the force from the hammer impales the concrete with a diamond. Congrats, you now have a diamond encrusted concrete bit. (and a crack in your concrete)
Real diamonds can cut glass as well, an infinite amount of times, depending on the Harness/Tool.
What wears out on diamond tools in real life - is not the diamond (unless cutting diamonds or harder substances) but the device Holding the diamond.
You could say the same for Minecraft as well, it's the wooden 'twigs' used to make the handle wearing out, not the diamond tip.
I support longer lasting Diamond and "Iron" tools (or make Steel a makable thing) but definately not "forever lasting".
In the case of the handles breaking on diamond tools, it would be cool if someone made a plugin for a chance to get a "Diamond Pick Top" when it broke though, and you could take 2 sticks and the top and re-make a diamond pick. (only with diamond, and only if broken via normal mining means and not dropped into fire/lava etc)
Wrong, diamonds are not forever. After about 7 half-lives, they are functionally carbon.
However, in our lifetime, you won't notice it.
How are diamonds uncommon? There are people who have made houses out of diamond blocks. Entire bloody houses.
So, having infinite diamond tools would add way too many diamonds into the game. No thanks.
This would literally break the game. Zero support.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/523654-eclectic-survival-mod/
http://www.ehow.com/how_2254459_destroy-a-diamond.html
What are you, a jeweler?
You don't understand what it means to be the hardest material. It is BRITTLE. It will scratch from nearly nothing, but it shatters at the drop of a hat.
There are many things wrong with this suggestion.... please read this too
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1228204-please-read-this-before-making-a-suggestion/
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with the original Diamond durability(1,562 uses) and raise the diamond tool durability to something like 5,000, but it shouldn't be infinite.
On-Topic:
I think the tools should last longer but infinite is overpowered, no matter how you put it.
This is the most overpowered thing on the suggestion forum I have ever seen. The only thing that would best this in the OP scale would be a nuke that destroys 5,000 chunks and is crafted with feathers and sticks.
No support whatsoever.
"Do we want to be the mediocre brimstone boy, or do we want to be the more-than-enough brimstone man?" - Northernlion
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To all those saying that diamonds cannot be broken because they're hard: Hardness does not equal toughness. Diamonds are very brittle, and can be easily broken at certain angles. This is because their molecular structure has certain points where a large amount of molecules line up. Hitting them at these points will cause it to slightly collapse in on itself,and split. A large hammer could easily hit one of these points, quickly reducing the diamond to powder.
OT: Why would you think this is good? The most powerful tool being infinite? Think out your suggestions before you post