Maybe we should just wait. The 1.5 redstone update gave this "flying machine" design a huge step up with redstone blocks. Maybe there will be an update that will grandiosely improve this machine. If there were a way to stick blocks together, it would be really helpful. It would also be helpful if redstone blocks could be "turned off" like redstone torches. It would basically make them portable redstone torches that one could build on.
Maybe we should just wait. The 1.5 redstone update gave this "flying machine" design a huge step up with redstone blocks. Maybe there will be an update that will grandiosely improve this machine. If there were a way to stick blocks together, it would be really helpful.
I have suggested glue but people hated on it. I wish someone would make the mod or even have it incorporated into minecraft. The next updates are planned to be about specific aspects of the game.
1.6 is all about minecraft being more realistic and horses no redstone, though finally they have horses
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I love redstone, he loves redstone, you like redstone, that dog likes redstone, same with that cat, that brick likes redstone, wait no he does not, that noob needs redstone, that blender likes redstone, and same with that pile of trash, that Sethbling wants redstone, WE ALL LIKE REDSTONE !!!
I have suggested glue but people hated on it. I wish someone would make the mod or even have it incorporated into minecraft. The next updates are planned to be about specific aspects of the game.
I agree.
I think glue is a GREAT idea. If we had something like that, we wouldn't need this thread that has been running for over 2 years.....
Because redstone components break off the blocks when you push them, I think it's impossible to make an automatic one in vanilla Minecraft. If only they didn't add that feature >_>Aaaaaaaand Command blocks can't be pushed either.........That is just great.........
Quoted evidence and source for this? Nothing added has made Minecraft "more realistic."
OT: It would be great if things like redstone dust and torches were moved with the blocks.
'Tch, I know, right? Because of that, and the fact that command blocks can't be pushed, I must conclude that it is currently impossible to make an automatically moving ship (I know, I said that in the above comment). It simply can't be done
Quoted evidence and source for this? Nothing added has made Minecraft "more realistic."
OT: It would be great if things like redstone dust and torches were moved with the blocks.
DinnerBone confirmed hoses and they are making it more realistic by making the day and night cycles like the seasons longer in the summer and shorter in the winter
I love redstone, he loves redstone, you like redstone, that dog likes redstone, same with that cat, that brick likes redstone, wait no he does not, that noob needs redstone, that blender likes redstone, and same with that pile of trash, that Sethbling wants redstone, WE ALL LIKE REDSTONE !!!
DinnerBone confirmed hoses and they are making it more realistic by making the day and night cycles like the seasons longer in the summer and shorter in the winter
using glue why not just push the whole ship with one piston engine
Glue would make it so blocks that aren't in the straight path of the pistons could still be pushed
yes with glue you could attach 12 blocks to each piston and an infinite repeater glued to the blocks. this would also allow changing of directions. it would be a giant leap for this forum.
in my mind the glue would make two blocks merge and you could make glue remover to separate the blocks or, just make it a logic thing where just the piston would see it as one block.
I actually think leashes could have potential with their ability to be attached to entities (they could manipulate a minecart over a detector rail), although this requires McEdit at present.
Also, I don't understand what all this is about fuel and computers which keeps cropping up. If it's mods, allow me to explain why using a mod would defeat the purpose entirely:
A flying machine in minecraft is impressive because it would use simple components to create a complex machine. Modding introduces artificial complexity, cannot be enjoyed by players on *any* server, and is about as impressive as flight in a game like pilot wings.
Also also, I recall Jeb noting that glue would never be implemented.
Please refrain from discussing mods here, as such posts continue to water down this thread and reduce it into a swarm of poorly disguised bumps. The good stuff is dozens of pages back, buried and unlikely to be found by anyone without patience for such digging.
To recap all we know at present:
A piston engine MUST have the rear block powered. In order to power it, you must create another rear block. This is why it appears impossible.
Mobile power sources include detector rails and redstone blocks. Little else exists or counts.
Flying machines CAN be made, but they require a pilot. Mechanisms include placing a torch, breaking a block, refilling sand, placing a lever, and more.
Because of the implausibility of a truly automatic machine, the ideal flying machine would require a single cheap and easy motion by the pilot. If the pilot could simply face one direction and hold right mouse down, that would be EXTREMELY impressive. It's not impossible, give it a go guys!
Don't post in this thread unless you have material, such as a design for a manual flying machine (those were really cool guys, why did you stop?), or perhaps a particularly weird idea. Be sure to include pictures of models for your ideas if you can! (:
I actually think leashes could have potential with their ability to be attached to entities (they could manipulate a minecart over a detector rail), although this requires McEdit at present.
Also, I don't understand what all this is about fuel and computers which keeps cropping up. If it's mods, allow me to explain why using a mod would defeat the purpose entirely:
A flying machine in minecraft is impressive because it would use simple components to create a complex machine. Modding introduces artificial complexity, cannot be enjoyed by players on *any* server, and is about as impressive as flight in a game like pilot wings.
Also also, I recall Jeb noting that glue would never be implemented.
Please refrain from discussing mods here, as such posts continue to water down this thread and reduce it into a swarm of poorly disguised bumps. The good stuff is dozens of pages back, buried and unlikely to be found by anyone without patience for such digging.
To recap all we know at present:
A piston engine MUST have the rear block powered. In order to power it, you must create another rear block. This is why it appears impossible.
Mobile power sources include detector rails and redstone blocks. Little else exists or counts.
Flying machines CAN be made, but they require a pilot. Mechanisms include placing a torch, breaking a block, refilling sand, placing a lever, and more.
Because of the implausibility of a truly automatic machine, the ideal flying machine would require a single cheap and easy motion by the pilot. If the pilot could simply face one direction and hold right mouse down, that would be EXTREMELY impressive. It's not impossible, give it a go guys!
Don't post in this thread unless you have material, such as a design for a manual flying machine (those were really cool guys, why did you stop?), or perhaps a particularly weird idea. Be sure to include pictures of models for your ideas if you can! (:
1. Detector rails break when pushed by a piston
2. Command blocks and other redstone components also break when pushed (Command blocks can't be pushed). The only redstone component that can be pushed is a block of redstone.
3. Because Command Blocks can't be pushed, and redstone components break off, things like "facing somewhere and right clicking" wouldn't work. It would only work if there were a command that output a redstone signal to a certain place or something.
Ah yes, forgot that rails break off now. It used to work, but no longer, which does indeed limit us to redstone blocks, unless:
The breaking mechanic can be exploited. This would greatly simplify piloting a flying machine, as the left click portion would happen on its own. Hence, the current holy grail I am after is indeed "point and spam".
Also, I fail to see how command blocks would help (and they wouldn't be viable in survival, so even less acceptable).
Ah yes, forgot that rails break off now. It used to work, but no longer, which does indeed limit us to redstone blocks, unless:
The breaking mechanic can be exploited. This would greatly simplify piloting a flying machine, as the left click portion would happen on its own. Hence, the current holy grail I am after is indeed "point and spam".
Also, I fail to see how command blocks would help (and they wouldn't be viable in survival, so even less acceptable).
I said Command Blocks because they can be used for wireless redstone or sensors
Still nothing to further your case or garner more respect.
I have suggested glue but people hated on it. I wish someone would make the mod or even have it incorporated into minecraft. The next updates are planned to be about specific aspects of the game.
I agree.
I think glue is a GREAT idea. If we had something like that, we wouldn't need this thread that has been running for over 2 years.....
Quoted evidence and source for this? Nothing added has made Minecraft "more realistic."
OT: It would be great if things like redstone dust and torches were moved with the blocks.
'Tch, I know, right? Because of that, and the fact that command blocks can't be pushed, I must conclude that it is currently impossible to make an automatically moving ship (I know, I said that in the above comment). It simply can't be done
using glue why not just push the whole ship with one piston engine
Glue would make it so blocks that aren't in the straight path of the pistons could still be pushed
*Starts building bombs and dons a hoodie with sunglasses*
in my mind the glue would make two blocks merge and you could make glue remover to separate the blocks or, just make it a logic thing where just the piston would see it as one block.
Also, I don't understand what all this is about fuel and computers which keeps cropping up. If it's mods, allow me to explain why using a mod would defeat the purpose entirely:
A flying machine in minecraft is impressive because it would use simple components to create a complex machine. Modding introduces artificial complexity, cannot be enjoyed by players on *any* server, and is about as impressive as flight in a game like pilot wings.
Also also, I recall Jeb noting that glue would never be implemented.
Please refrain from discussing mods here, as such posts continue to water down this thread and reduce it into a swarm of poorly disguised bumps. The good stuff is dozens of pages back, buried and unlikely to be found by anyone without patience for such digging.
To recap all we know at present:
1. Detector rails break when pushed by a piston
2. Command blocks and other redstone components also break when pushed (Command blocks can't be pushed). The only redstone component that can be pushed is a block of redstone.
3. Because Command Blocks can't be pushed, and redstone components break off, things like "facing somewhere and right clicking" wouldn't work. It would only work if there were a command that output a redstone signal to a certain place or something.
The breaking mechanic can be exploited. This would greatly simplify piloting a flying machine, as the left click portion would happen on its own. Hence, the current holy grail I am after is indeed "point and spam".
Also, I fail to see how command blocks would help (and they wouldn't be viable in survival, so even less acceptable).
I said Command Blocks because they can be used for wireless redstone or sensors
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