I've always wondered if it was possible to make a working Rubik'sd cube out of redstone torches for the display. Ie, one torch on for red, two for white, three for green etc. But you guys have a good idea going here for the mechanics, so I don't think that its necessary. Nerds RULE!
How it works is simple, but hard to explain; but i can ensure you that his design will work near perfectly when hes done.(I say near only because pistons can be really buggy when to many go off at once)
So please, wait until he finishes it, which by what i can tell will be in a short while. :wink.gif:
I'd be more willing to believe if I can see he actually tested out his design, eg visible levers stuck onto the pistons in his screenshots.
Hard to explain? How about some diagrams?
In fact, let me show you how my mechanism works in rotating the face of a cube, which will operate simultaneously in rotating the edge which uses nearly the same mechanism minus the first and last step.
Initial state.
Sticky pistons pull out the wool from the face ring to the outer ring.
The two sticky pistons on the bottom left push out that glowstone, which pushes the bottom row of blocks
Then they retract, while the rest of the pistons do their job.
Last push of the cycle...
A one tick pulse is sense to the bottom right sticky piston, causing it to push and not pull the cobblestone.
Repeat until blocks are in new positions
The one tick pulse are sent to the rest of the sticky pistons, only pushing and not pulling the wool blocks in their new position.
Though the pistons may get crowded, I intend some pistons to be involved in more than one rotation mechanism. That's how I managed to fit the Rubik's cube into a 7x7 cube
@Conundrummer: This looks very complicated! Have you seen my version? I think you should try it, because it is stable, simple and fast.
Yea, I've seen it. I made my design before seeing your version, and the diagram also serves as an example of how to show people how your piston mechanisms work, so Driscj would hopefully respond to me with an illustrated explanation.
Also, are you suggesting that I incorporate your mechanism into the cube I'm working on? I was thinking about using it, but I need your permission, since you're making your own cube.
In addition, I have an idea to make your mechanism bidirectional.
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My Youtube channel.
Contains Pachebel's Canon made with noteblocks, a working Rubik's cube made with pistons, and the ultimate TNT cannon.
@Conundrumer
Oh my, i have actually just realized your right, the Rubik's cube that he made IS flawed... I was actually making a seemlier design yesterday (as you would have read) that would have fixed this problem... Guess i should get back to work on it...
Thank you for seeing the error in my logic. :unsure.gif:
So I scrapped the bidirectional idea, simply because it wouldn't make wiring any easier. I'd rather spend time waiting for pistons to rotate than spending even more time figuring out the wiring.
Now, it's pretty much an adaptation of Felk's design. I modified the face rotator so that the face is pulled out, rather than the mechanism being on the same layer. I also spaced everything apart for more room for wiring, at the expense of being aesthetically pleasing.
The next step is wiring this mofo.
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My Youtube channel.
Contains Pachebel's Canon made with noteblocks, a working Rubik's cube made with pistons, and the ultimate TNT cannon.
@Conundrumer
You have a really interesting way of making your Rubik's cube; it looks like your going to do it from the inside of the cube...
That is actually a really unique and smart idea...
Why didn't I think of that... Diamonds for you good sir...
So that brings a question... are you actually going to have to do the cube from the inside of it? :huh.gif:
@Felk
You and me seem to be having the same idea on the design for the cube... The EXACT same idea... :mellow.gif:
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It isn't a question of 'Why?', it is a question of 'Why NOT!?!'.
Why would you want to rotate the middle rows? It's not necessary to turn the cube to solve it.
A turn of a middle row is like rotating the rows left and right of it in the other direction and turning the cube(I'm not sure if this is comprehensible).
This reduces the comlexity by a fair bit. I think it might be quite possible.
wireless redstone mod would be good. i think it sends signals up to 75 blocks
So I scrapped the bidirectional idea, simply because it wouldn't make wiring any easier. I'd rather spend time waiting for pistons to rotate than spending even more time figuring out the wiring.
Now, it's pretty much an adaptation of Felk's design. I modified the face rotator so that the face is pulled out, rather than the mechanism being on the same layer. I also spaced everything apart for more room for wiring, at the expense of being aesthetically pleasing.
The next step is wiring this mofo.
Looks more compact than my attempts yet. But how do you Pull the colors out and then push them back in? The 1-tick sticky piston glitch isn't stable.
What speed of rotation are you guys getting? I'm getting 12 ticks >.< i hate how slow it is, and i'm having trouble matching the same speed on the other sides.
What speed of rotation are you guys getting? I'm getting 12 ticks >.< i hate how slow it is, and i'm having trouble matching the same speed on the other sides.
The minimum is 2 ticks. But that's not stable enough. I use 1 tick signal and 7 ticks delay, so 8 ticks together. But I'm going to improve it.
Decided to give this a shot. Since I'm completely bonkers I'm doing bi-directional; I've managed to get 1 side working fully and 4 sides partially. The wiring is absolutely gargantuan! All up there's 222 pistons with 120 control wires.
I put together a quick preview video showing the functioning side:
Decided to give this a shot. Since I'm completely bonkers I'm doing bi-directional; I've managed to get 1 side working fully and 4 sides partially. The wiring is absolutely gargantuan! All up there's 222 pistons with 120 control wires.
I put together a quick preview video showing the functioning side:
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Awesome, I hope you get the other sides working, too.
Fixed.
In any case, no one else brought up Rubik's cubes, except one guy who put it as the lowest priority.
@Felk: Go ahead.
I'm getting some really fast speeds for my rotation. I decided to use a simpler method to rotate the edges. The period for rotation is 4 ticks.
I'd be more willing to believe if I can see he actually tested out his design, eg visible levers stuck onto the pistons in his screenshots.
Hard to explain? How about some diagrams?
In fact, let me show you how my mechanism works in rotating the face of a cube, which will operate simultaneously in rotating the edge which uses nearly the same mechanism minus the first and last step.
Initial state.
Sticky pistons pull out the wool from the face ring to the outer ring.
The two sticky pistons on the bottom left push out that glowstone, which pushes the bottom row of blocks
Then they retract, while the rest of the pistons do their job.
Last push of the cycle...
A one tick pulse is sense to the bottom right sticky piston, causing it to push and not pull the cobblestone.
Repeat until blocks are in new positions
The one tick pulse are sent to the rest of the sticky pistons, only pushing and not pulling the wool blocks in their new position.
Though the pistons may get crowded, I intend some pistons to be involved in more than one rotation mechanism. That's how I managed to fit the Rubik's cube into a 7x7 cube
Contains Pachebel's Canon made with noteblocks, a working Rubik's cube made with pistons, and the ultimate TNT cannon.
But I think 6 possible moves is enough for the beginning.
@Conundrummer: This looks very complicated! Have you seen my version? I think you should try it, because it is stable, simple and fast.
The bug with the bigger wool ring is caused by the way I wired the pistons. If I wire them separately they work correctly.
Yea, I've seen it. I made my design before seeing your version, and the diagram also serves as an example of how to show people how your piston mechanisms work, so Driscj would hopefully respond to me with an illustrated explanation.
Also, are you suggesting that I incorporate your mechanism into the cube I'm working on? I was thinking about using it, but I need your permission, since you're making your own cube.
In addition, I have an idea to make your mechanism bidirectional.
Contains Pachebel's Canon made with noteblocks, a working Rubik's cube made with pistons, and the ultimate TNT cannon.
Oh my, i have actually just realized your right, the Rubik's cube that he made IS flawed... I was actually making a seemlier design yesterday (as you would have read) that would have fixed this problem... Guess i should get back to work on it...
Thank you for seeing the error in my logic. :unsure.gif:
Now, it's pretty much an adaptation of Felk's design. I modified the face rotator so that the face is pulled out, rather than the mechanism being on the same layer. I also spaced everything apart for more room for wiring, at the expense of being aesthetically pleasing.
The next step is wiring this mofo.
Contains Pachebel's Canon made with noteblocks, a working Rubik's cube made with pistons, and the ultimate TNT cannon.
WTF is that? it looks nothing like a rubics cube.
You have a really interesting way of making your Rubik's cube; it looks like your going to do it from the inside of the cube...
That is actually a really unique and smart idea...
Why didn't I think of that... Diamonds for you good sir...
So that brings a question... are you actually going to have to do the cube from the inside of it? :huh.gif:
@Felk
You and me seem to be having the same idea on the design for the cube... The EXACT same idea... :mellow.gif:
wireless redstone mod would be good. i think it sends signals up to 75 blocks
With the wireless redstone mod you can do anything in 5 minutes, true geniuses use vanilla redstone!
Looks more compact than my attempts yet. But how do you Pull the colors out and then push them back in? The 1-tick sticky piston glitch isn't stable.
The sticky pistons are supposed to stay extended. It retracts and pulls the colors out when there's a rotation on its corresponding face.
Contains Pachebel's Canon made with noteblocks, a working Rubik's cube made with pistons, and the ultimate TNT cannon.
Oh, right! I was stupid :smile.gif:
BTW: Can I use your 'pulling-out-design'? Mine seems to be unnecessary complicated.
The minimum is 2 ticks. But that's not stable enough. I use 1 tick signal and 7 ticks delay, so 8 ticks together. But I'm going to improve it.
I put together a quick preview video showing the functioning side:
Awesome, I hope you get the other sides working, too.
It's getting lonely
Fixed.
In any case, no one else brought up Rubik's cubes, except one guy who put it as the lowest priority.
@Felk: Go ahead.
I'm getting some really fast speeds for my rotation. I decided to use a simpler method to rotate the edges. The period for rotation is 4 ticks.
Contains Pachebel's Canon made with noteblocks, a working Rubik's cube made with pistons, and the ultimate TNT cannon.