Once again quivers have frustratingly slipped through our fingers. More natural? MORE NATURAL???? Fumbling around with a bunch of arrows in one hand and a bow in the other is more natural? THAN WHAT? A QUIVER?? I've been an archer for a good number of years. So, you can imagine my anger.
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To put simply the new system is you have the bow in your main hand(left or right) then in your off hand you hold the arrow, making the classic how you use a bow. The quiver just didnt make sense with the new offhand feature
Why does it have to relate to the off hand feature at all?!?!!
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The bow would be in the off hand while the string pulled with the main hand. The arrow has a rest on the bow (unless traditional where it rest on top of your finger) and is notched on the string; so it isn't held. If you ever used a quiver you'd realize that you can carry various arrows with heads for different hunting or shooting requirements such as blunts for small game, points for target, and broad-heads for larger game. The whole point of a quiver is to carry your arrows so they and you are protected. I never had a problem choosing my arrow based on the fletching on the shaft. They should ask these modders how to do it.
Right. Which makes you question their choice. What would be cool, is if (the off hand is required to be empty for this) that there would be an animation of the player pulling the arrow from the quiver and notching it on the bow. I just hope they don't get too realistic and add arm guards.
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Right. Which makes you question their choice. What would be cool, is if (the off hand is required to be empty for this) that there would be an animation of the player pulling the arrow from the quiver and notching it on the bow. I just hope they don't get too realistic and add arm guards.
hahaha... armguards.... that would suck >.<
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to the below, when you shoot a bow you have an arrow in one hand then point the bow down and knock it, i think this is what they are trying to recreate.
although... what the heck no quivers? i thought they would be like a separate inventory for your arrows... :/
Where did anyone from Mojang say that bows are two handed? Source? The fact that you can equip arrows in your off-hand is basically proof that they AREN'T two handed... You know, because you have an arrow in your off-hand?
I haven't seen anything in this thread or the Wiki stating that bows will be two handed... The only thing I saw in regards to it was this tweet and picture.
By "weapons" I assume Dinnerbone means swords, and by "attack" I assume he means left click, which is true. Since the block function was removed from swords however, your main-hand does not have a right click function. This would default your right click to your off-hand. I assume you would still be able to draw a bow with right click while main-handing a sword, but would be unable to punch someone with it. Not exactly a big loss in the bows functionality.
That's a number of assumptions, but will probably be how it works unless it's reworked again before it's released /shrug.
I was confused in my thought that you can't "use" your main hand however. They just removed the "use"(block) from swords. Your main-hand "use" will override your off-hand.
When he said natural he ment gameplay-wise, not in real life. You already couldn't have something in your offhand while using a bow, so all that's lost is the quiver slot. Didn't make sense anyway.
It would be cool if the quiver was an item that could open an another inventory inside your main inventory. Inside of it you'd be able to keep, let's say... 15 (?) slots for arrows? It wouldn't be OP like a backpack but could still have an use besides the addition of a cool visual effect. Maybe quiver should be a rare loot and not craftable item?
I thought the off hand was to be used for shield or torches that could be placed but not for say another sword (other than just to carry it there. So if the quiver was in the off hand or say a quiver slot it could contain maybe 3 or 4 stacks of different arrows types. They could incorporate a hot key or mouse scroll to change type of arrow to be shot. It wouldn't be OP since they could always reduce the amount of arrows per slot in the quiver so the max was still 64 if they wanted to. Either all one type or several depending on how you wanted to play. They could use the 2x2 crafting grid to refill the arrows in the quiver. The only difference is that it would free up a storage slot in the players normal inventory.
I thought the off hand was to be used for shield or torches that could be placed but not for say another sword (other than just to carry it there. So if the quiver was in the off hand or say a quiver slot it could contain maybe 3 or 4 stacks of different arrows types. They could incorporate a hot key or mouse scroll to change type of arrow to be shot. It wouldn't be OP since they could always reduce the amount of arrows per slot in the quiver so the max was still 64 if they wanted to. Either all one type or several depending on how you wanted to play. They could use the 2x2 crafting grid to refill the arrows in the quiver. The only difference is that it would free up a storage slot in the players normal inventory.
Refilling the quiver from the crafting grid would be slower though, though it would be nice for archers to have a few more slots.
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But still. Who doesn't want a quiver chock full of arrows slung across your back when your hunting or just general caving? They should make it so that the quiver can be added to any armor so you can see it over the armor.
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Mojang shouldn't be worried about people complaining about new stuff which is mod-like. There are always people who do that.
But Mojang, please, please re-add the quiver.
No they shouldn't but it makes their too difficult to implement argument fall apart since the code is already out there; not to mention open sourced as well.
This community... a Mojang developer removes one feature and people start hating. Yes, it you may think it was a good feature, but 1.9 isn't ruined. There's a ton of other stuff like:
An End overhaul
New Arrows
Two hands
Grass paths
Subtitles
Shields
Better Command Blocks
Better animations for hostile mobs.
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Once again quivers have frustratingly slipped through our fingers. More natural? MORE NATURAL???? Fumbling around with a bunch of arrows in one hand and a bow in the other is more natural? THAN WHAT? A QUIVER?? I've been an archer for a good number of years. So, you can imagine my anger.
Why does it have to relate to the off hand feature at all?!?!!
The bow would be in the off hand while the string pulled with the main hand. The arrow has a rest on the bow (unless traditional where it rest on top of your finger) and is notched on the string; so it isn't held. If you ever used a quiver you'd realize that you can carry various arrows with heads for different hunting or shooting requirements such as blunts for small game, points for target, and broad-heads for larger game. The whole point of a quiver is to carry your arrows so they and you are protected. I never had a problem choosing my arrow based on the fletching on the shaft. They should ask these modders how to do it.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1291267-mine-blade-battlegear-2-bullseye-1-0-8-0
Right. Which makes you question their choice. What would be cool, is if (the off hand is required to be empty for this) that there would be an animation of the player pulling the arrow from the quiver and notching it on the bow. I just hope they don't get too realistic and add arm guards.
hahaha... armguards.... that would suck >.<
EDIT:
to the below, when you shoot a bow you have an arrow in one hand then point the bow down and knock it, i think this is what they are trying to recreate.
although... what the heck no quivers? i thought they would be like a separate inventory for your arrows... :/
while some of these are
When he said natural he ment gameplay-wise, not in real life. You already couldn't have something in your offhand while using a bow, so all that's lost is the quiver slot. Didn't make sense anyway.
It would be cool if the quiver was an item that could open an another inventory inside your main inventory. Inside of it you'd be able to keep, let's say... 15 (?) slots for arrows? It wouldn't be OP like a backpack but could still have an use besides the addition of a cool visual effect. Maybe quiver should be a rare loot and not craftable item?
Please, find a solution Dinnerbone!
I'm totally ready for this to come out!
I thought the off hand was to be used for shield or torches that could be placed but not for say another sword (other than just to carry it there. So if the quiver was in the off hand or say a quiver slot it could contain maybe 3 or 4 stacks of different arrows types. They could incorporate a hot key or mouse scroll to change type of arrow to be shot. It wouldn't be OP since they could always reduce the amount of arrows per slot in the quiver so the max was still 64 if they wanted to. Either all one type or several depending on how you wanted to play. They could use the 2x2 crafting grid to refill the arrows in the quiver. The only difference is that it would free up a storage slot in the players normal inventory.
Refilling the quiver from the crafting grid would be slower though, though it would be nice for archers to have a few more slots.
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Indeed, but it would also add a little balance in PvP and make one think more about wasting a shot.
But still. Who doesn't want a quiver chock full of arrows slung across your back when your hunting or just general caving? They should make it so that the quiver can be added to any armor so you can see it over the armor.
They should add the quiver and remove Infinity.
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Dinnerbone confirms 1.9 snapshots. They will arrive soon. However, they will not live release at Minecon.
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Off-hand priority? Why can't the quiver just be priority?
Why did they remove the quiver? That makes me feel that the 1.9 update is going to be disappointing.
Lets at least wait for the snapshot to see how it works before we start that sort of thing.
No they shouldn't but it makes their too difficult to implement argument fall apart since the code is already out there; not to mention open sourced as well.
This community... a Mojang developer removes one feature and people start hating. Yes, it you may think it was a good feature, but 1.9 isn't ruined. There's a ton of other stuff like:
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