If you want to present real arguments , do it with some intellect and reason.
The reason notch is releasing this for xbox is because he runs a buisiness that he wants to grow , and despite what you believe about the pc as a platform , there is a reason game developers dont want anything to do with it , and that reason is piracy.
Notch is bringing this to 360 because he wants to expand the minecraft community beyond a niche game on pc.
And believe it or not , there are some people on 360 who would really enjoy this game , myself included (i also have the pc version and continue to play it nearly every day)
So will you please cut out the retarded console war toddler ******** before i have to start reporting you and your autistic friends for inciting flame wars by labeling a community that has not even shown up yet "stupid" without any credibility beyond "herp derp i saw a youtube video with kids yelling over xbox live so the whole community must consist of children herp derp"
just drop the argument and stop acting like little elitist shitheads.
Funding for minecraft on pc has already been met , microsoft more than likely is funding development of the xbox version.
so no , the sky isnt falling and minecraft isnt going to be ruined by xbox , in fact this choice by notch will more than likely expand possiblities for minecraft beyond what was possible with a pc only release.
no it isnt hard at all , but its not done nearly enough to warrant not giving a **** about the 360 as a platform.
Unlike the pc as a gaming platform which is suffering from so much piracy developers have to make console versions to maintain a profit and walk away still having their rent paid
no it isnt hard at all , but its not done nearly enough to warrant not giving a **** about the 360 as a platform.
Unlike the pc as a gaming platform which is suffering from so much piracy developers have to make console versions to maintain a profit and walk away still having their rent paid
Minecraft got popular because of piracy. Person A told Person B that Minecraft is good. Person B pirated it. Person B bought the game because he liked it. Person B told Person C that Minecraft is good...
Let's take Portal 2 as an example -- this is was a high-profile game, with physical PC copies, steam PC copies and PS3 and Xbox copies.
Where did the leak happen first? Xbox.
And second? PS3
And was it leaked on PC? Not until May.
Pirating console games is easy.
it most definately is piracy.
there is no argument in the world that could change that fact.
Just look at crysis for ****s sake , that game was godly , then pc gamers pirated over 1 million copies of the title within a few months.
"Oh hay i guess we cant make anymore money on pc without being robbed blind by neckbeards , oh well it was fun while it lasted , time to make money again by moving to consoles"
Right because MC has barely turned any profits for Notch on PC. He must be going to MS so he can pay the bills right?
Oh right, he's made millions off of support from PC gamers.
Piracy isn't killing PC games. It's companies trying to switch over to console games who are more easily milked and have lower expectations for gaming. Sometimes it works (COD) sometimes it flops (Crytek). It's also MS wooing over or buying out companies and then pushing games onto the XBox 360. Piracy is just the catch all for poor games, poor marketing or all of the above. It's also companies that are pushing up the budgets so much on their games that they are forced to go multi-plat and then taking the easy route and developing for the lowest common denominator. Then when PC gamers don't bite (Crysis 2) they claim Piracy rather than admitting that they shafted PC gamers. Piracy is just an excuse that no one can really verify or deny, but it's not killing the industry like they want you to believe it is.
Crytek claimed they went multiplat because of Piracy, but they sold 5 million copies of the original Crysis (and Crysis Warhead). Not too shabby for a game that only really ran well on a year or two after it was released. Guess how Crysis 2 is doing now? It tanked on consoles (isn't made by ND and doesn't have Halo or CoD in it's name) and it tanked on PC (not even DX10??? right!!!!!). Is Crytek going to blame piracy again? Probably.....
Even Notch himself has spoken out against the industry using "piracy" as an excuse.
Right because MC has barely turned any profits for Notch on PC. He must be going to MS so he can pay the bills right?
Oh right, he's made millions off of support from PC gamers.
Piracy isn't killing PC games. It's companies trying to switch over to console games who are more easily milked and have lower expectations for gaming. Sometimes it works (COD) sometimes it flops (Crytek). It's also MS wooing over or buying out companies and then pushing games onto the XBox 360. Piracy is just the catch all for poor games, poor marketing or all of the above. It's also companies that are pushing up the budgets so much on their games that they are forced to go multi-plat and then taking the easy route and developing for the lowest common denominator. Then when PC gamers don't bite (Crysis 2) they claim Piracy rather than admitting that they shafted PC gamers. Piracy is just an excuse that no one can really verify or deny, but it's not killing the industry like they want you to believe it is.
Crytek claimed they went multiplat because of Piracy, but they sold 5 million copies of the original Crysis. Not too shabby for a game that only really ran well on a year or two after it was released. Guess how Crysis 2 is doing now? It tanked on consoles (isn't made by ND and doesn't have Halo or CoD in it's name) and it tanked on PC (not even DX10??? right!!!!!). Is Crytek going to blame piracy again? Probably.....
Even Notch himself has spoken out against the industry using "piracy" as an excuse.
notch hasnt released the game yet so he has no valid opinion on how piracy can effect a game.
he hasnt sold a single copy either , you should read what your money was going to.
notch hasnt released the game yet so he has no valid opinion on how piracy can effect a game.
he hasnt sold a single copy either , you should read what your money was going to.
From the MC Site
"So far 8,968,392 people have registered and 2,445,976 people bought the game."
That comes out to between 30 and 40 million dollars from people buying the game. Seems like PC gamers do give support to PC Games.
Also from the MC Site
"You help fund the development of Minecraft"
In other words paying for MC is like paying for Notch to be able to develop the game (for the PC).
Finally, I guess you have no real rebuttal to my main points?
From the MC Site
"So far 8,968,392 people have registered and 2,445,976 people bought the game."
That comes out to between 30 and 40 million dollars from people buying the game. Seems like PC gamers do give support to PC Games.
Also from the MC Site
"You help fund the development of Minecraft"
In other words paying for MC is like paying for Notch to be able to develop the game (for the PC).
Finally, I guess you have no real rebuttal to my main points?
my rebuttal was in your post
"you help fund the development of minecraft"
in otherwords the game isnt finished and "pirating" a game that isnt finished yet doesnt really effect the developer
we will see what notch has to say regarding piracy when he actually releases his game and watches as all those "caring pc gamers" dissapear into a void of people pirating the living **** out of this game and not caring about it.
Exactly. Piracy has done more good than bad to the PC gaming community. Without it, I would not be a buying customer today for one. If Mojang wanted cash, they should've ported it to the Wii.
The reason they want it on X-Box is simple: bringing Fortresscraft and Craftworld down.
Actually, bringing down the rip-offs on X-Box would be pretty cool, probably steer people from the copies and get more involved in the real thing. Still though, companies are about money, and that's exactly what their making when they port it on over to the 360. It gets the word out to more people and spreads it's popularity even more, it shouldn't really hinder anybody who plays on the PC anyhow.
my rebuttal was in your post
"you help fund the development of minecraft"
in otherwords the game isnt finished and "pirating" a game that isnt finished yet doesnt really effect the developer
we will see what notch has to say regarding piracy when he actually releases his game and watches as all those "caring pc gamers" dissapear into a void of people pirating the living **** out of this game and not caring about it.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.
my rebuttal was in your post
"you help fund the development of minecraft"
in otherwords the game isnt finished and "pirating" a game that isnt finished yet doesnt really effect the developer
we will see what notch has to say regarding piracy when he actually releases his game and watches as all those "caring pc gamers" dissapear into a void of people pirating the living **** out of this game and not caring about it.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.
my rebuttal was in your post
"you help fund the development of minecraft"
in otherwords the game isnt finished and "pirating" a game that isnt finished yet doesnt really effect the developer
we will see what notch has to say regarding piracy when he actually releases his game and watches as all those "caring pc gamers" dissapear into a void of people pirating the living **** out of this game and not caring about it.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.
my rebuttal was in your post
"you help fund the development of minecraft"
in otherwords the game isnt finished and "pirating" a game that isnt finished yet doesnt really effect the developer
we will see what notch has to say regarding piracy when he actually releases his game and watches as all those "caring pc gamers" dissapear into a void of people pirating the living **** out of this game and not caring about it.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.
The reason notch is releasing this for xbox is because he runs a buisiness that he wants to grow , and despite what you believe about the pc as a platform , there is a reason game developers dont want anything to do with it , and that reason is piracy.
Notch is bringing this to 360 because he wants to expand the minecraft community beyond a niche game on pc.
And believe it or not , there are some people on 360 who would really enjoy this game , myself included (i also have the pc version and continue to play it nearly every day)
So will you please cut out the retarded console war toddler ******** before i have to start reporting you and your autistic friends for inciting flame wars by labeling a community that has not even shown up yet "stupid" without any credibility beyond "herp derp i saw a youtube video with kids yelling over xbox live so the whole community must consist of children herp derp"
just drop the argument and stop acting like little elitist shitheads.
Funding for minecraft on pc has already been met , microsoft more than likely is funding development of the xbox version.
so no , the sky isnt falling and minecraft isnt going to be ruined by xbox , in fact this choice by notch will more than likely expand possiblities for minecraft beyond what was possible with a pc only release.
Pirating xbox games isn't hard.
no it isnt hard at all , but its not done nearly enough to warrant not giving a **** about the 360 as a platform.
Unlike the pc as a gaming platform which is suffering from so much piracy developers have to make console versions to maintain a profit and walk away still having their rent paid
Minecraft got popular because of piracy. Person A told Person B that Minecraft is good. Person B pirated it. Person B bought the game because he liked it. Person B told Person C that Minecraft is good...
Very true.
there is no argument in the world that could change that fact.
Just look at crysis for ****s sake , that game was godly , then pc gamers pirated over 1 million copies of the title within a few months.
"Oh hay i guess we cant make anymore money on pc without being robbed blind by neckbeards , oh well it was fun while it lasted , time to make money again by moving to consoles"
Oh right, he's made millions off of support from PC gamers.
Piracy isn't killing PC games. It's companies trying to switch over to console games who are more easily milked and have lower expectations for gaming. Sometimes it works (COD) sometimes it flops (Crytek). It's also MS wooing over or buying out companies and then pushing games onto the XBox 360. Piracy is just the catch all for poor games, poor marketing or all of the above. It's also companies that are pushing up the budgets so much on their games that they are forced to go multi-plat and then taking the easy route and developing for the lowest common denominator. Then when PC gamers don't bite (Crysis 2) they claim Piracy rather than admitting that they shafted PC gamers. Piracy is just an excuse that no one can really verify or deny, but it's not killing the industry like they want you to believe it is.
Crytek claimed they went multiplat because of Piracy, but they sold 5 million copies of the original Crysis (and Crysis Warhead). Not too shabby for a game that only really ran well on a year or two after it was released. Guess how Crysis 2 is doing now? It tanked on consoles (isn't made by ND and doesn't have Halo or CoD in it's name) and it tanked on PC (not even DX10??? right!!!!!). Is Crytek going to blame piracy again? Probably.....
Even Notch himself has spoken out against the industry using "piracy" as an excuse.
notch hasnt released the game yet so he has no valid opinion on how piracy can effect a game.
he hasnt sold a single copy either , you should read what your money was going to.
From the MC Site
"So far 8,968,392 people have registered and 2,445,976 people bought the game."
That comes out to between 30 and 40 million dollars from people buying the game. Seems like PC gamers do give support to PC Games.
Also from the MC Site
"You help fund the development of Minecraft"
In other words paying for MC is like paying for Notch to be able to develop the game (for the PC).
Finally, I guess you have no real rebuttal to my main points?
my rebuttal was in your post
"you help fund the development of minecraft"
in otherwords the game isnt finished and "pirating" a game that isnt finished yet doesnt really effect the developer
we will see what notch has to say regarding piracy when he actually releases his game and watches as all those "caring pc gamers" dissapear into a void of people pirating the living **** out of this game and not caring about it.
Actually, bringing down the rip-offs on X-Box would be pretty cool, probably steer people from the copies and get more involved in the real thing. Still though, companies are about money, and that's exactly what their making when they port it on over to the 360. It gets the word out to more people and spreads it's popularity even more, it shouldn't really hinder anybody who plays on the PC anyhow.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.
Right, still not a rebuttal to why publishers are moving away from PC gaming. Just a rebuttal to why you think Notch will change his mind on piracy.