If you would like to donate $1000 to our server I'm sure I could tell you lol (but no Dia Pickaxe!)
Alas, I'm saying nothing at this stage. The first ones to find the right solutions to monetisation will have a far better chance to survive...Sorry
I despise this new system. I'll continue running my server as I always have. I work my hardest not to make 'pay-to-win' systems in my donation perks. I've always hated that style of gameplay, and have avoided certain servers like the plague in order to make sure I'm not affected by it. Yet, as somebody who has fought against that aspect of minecraft's community for 3 years now, I find that I'm breaking Mojang's new EULA.
1. I refuse to charge players to access my server. You want to stop pay-to-win? Well, pay-to-win becomes an absolute when you completely cut out the ability to compete without money. Just because a server feels like they're pushed into a corner with your new EULA terms, thousands of players will now be unable to access the servers they love, due to the fact that they've changed to this new system.
2. A purely donation based server won't last long. Even when ran well, it's hard to meet monthly payments and population demands when there's no incentive for donation. On top of this, there's absolutely no way to track and determine whether we provide perks after the "donation" has taken place. An anonymous chest of goodies appearing outside of somebody's house can't really be traced.
This 'rule' is just silly. It's like the standard "No Running In the Hall" rule. It's only there to attempt to push people into walking based on the fear of the very, very, very minor amount of people who actually get caught doing so.
3. I'll just skip this bit about in-game advertisement. I don't think I have to go over why I don't plan to include this in my roleplay environment.
4. Can't sell in-game currencies? Well, I sell creditpoints which can be used for cosmetics. Now, I'm well aware that it doesn't go against their "As long as it doesn't affect gameplay" tidbit, but just the fact that I can be 'reported' to Mojang for something like this is absolutely childish.
I think that last bit pretty much wraps up how I feel about all this. Childish.
I feel like Mojang is attempting to play schoolteacher with all its subjugates right now, and I don't appreciate it in the slightest. Whether I'm in violation or not, this sort of Big Brother behavior is completely and utterly unnecessary, and makes me want to avoid running a server.
I love how this has become a survival of the wittest. Haha.
We will find all your ways sooner or later anyway. I for one look at other servers for ideas for the market mainly to see what sells and what don't can't hide it for ever people have to be able to see/read be for they purchase anything. I hate adds I for one will never do that if I can't stand them why would others want to be forced to if they don't like them. Yes I also talking about these minecraft forums dang adds.
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Wile trying to get some sleep I thought of a good way of getting money for the server it still require everyone to at lest pay upfront something though. There would have to be a plugin/mod made that can auto kick players if they ran out of payed time to play on the server so lets say every hour cost 1c you would have to buy at lest 100h of in game time just so paypal don't get mad for 1c payments hehe. Then have like goals or objectives in game to get more free time without having to pay more money to play on the server. Those players that don't want to have to deal with all the goals can keep paying if they so choose.
That would fit the EULA everyone had to play something upfront, but don't have to keep paying if they do all the daily's to get more time. it be kind of costly on the server though it have to keep sending pings to keep track of each players times it work though, but it still eliminate players that just can't get any money what so ever out of there parents or what ever it might be.
I don't know if there is any plugin/mod that can do what I say maybe there is one already I don't know. If not It give a programer something to build for server owners to comply with the new EULA.
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I'm a parent with a child that plays minecraft. I also have a little brother who plays minecraft. Both myself and my mother are well aware of what's spent on our credit cards. I'm sorry, but if you're one of those parents out there who has allowed your child to spend untold amounts of money on servers, then you're blatantly irresponsible.
If your kid stole the card, that's one thing. Punish him, send him to juvie, whatever you have to do, but don't go complaining to a company that is completely irrelevant in the matter.
Furthermore, since when has a company EVER paid attention to complaints that bear no relevance to them? It'd be like McDonalds completely redoing their menu because people were complaining to them about Burger King's food.
Parents! Why do you keep your credit cards next to the computer? Now, we that love our perks have to suffer!
Pay-2-win (or pay-4-perks) is a means to enhance one's playing experience, or... level the playing field. I'm a 55 year-old granny whose pvp skills were left back in 1979. Hiding in my granny-cave was My minecraft experience. Until I received my dpp,(donor perk package). Now, I'm a diamond encased, enchanted sword swinging, bad-butt, flying mc pla-yah.
My donation helped the server owner pay for the server.
My donation helped me survive above ground like the rest of the population.
My donation helped ALL who play on server enjoy a non-vanilla game.
My donation annoys some who think it's not fair. *I will gladly donate to your inventory to help you out! If you nice.
Parents...please keep your credit cards in your pants! Too many perked-up kiddies running around in minecraft communities.
Pay-2-win (pvp play)...Why join a community like this if you are against it?
or
Pay-4-perks (non-pvp play) ...see above...
I realize all this is moot...Eula being what it is. But still, a precedence has been set. This is my argument.
You'll charge your players for whatever you think is unique and special about your server, huh?
Reported for endorsing illegal activity.
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Ironically, the guy's points were completely wrong.
In the 1990s, TSR the company that made D&D had plenty of lawyer money to send out C&D's to websites about D&D. Mojang sits even better with a mountain of cash that will let them continue to operate for 10 years AFTER they have become a failing business venture (not making any money).
So yeah, Mojang is flush enough with $$ to enforce whatever they want.
I suspect mojangs main reason for all of this is because Realms isn't doing so well, so they want to kill off the regular minecraft servers inorder to make their own grow.
No. Even the Realms team itself at minecon said that if you wanted a bigger server, you should go with a professional host. A professional host allows you to run snapshots, bukkit, modpacks, etc, and have more than 20 people.
Realms=/= big servers.
Also, I have stopped playing on Mineplex because of the overpowered played ranks. (Also the server is laggy, but on any other server I run fine.) The overpowered ranks totally take the fun out of the game. One blaze or pig in Super Smash Mobs is game over for everybody even if everybody teams on the donator.
Then all servers will die out. There's a reason why street performers have to put on an act inorder to get people to give them money. There's a reason why major online charity events have to give out gifts in order for people to donate. People dont give out hard earned money when they dont feel a reason to. Sure a few might. But not enough to keep a server runner. Im paying 28 dollars a month. Kindness wont keep it running. Im merely trying to give people, just enough of a reason, for them to donate.
The server is the street performer. The act is a great server to play on.
The only people that appear to be angry about this are server owners.
Also - NO. They are not using this to popularize realms. Long before Realms even existed as a concept, they expressed their dislike of the pay-to-win systems. They just happen to now be focusing their attention on it.
Is mccapes mod and website illegal now by the terms of the new exceptions?
They give you a custom cape if you subscribe on the website...
Can somebody clear this out?
Nope.
Capes are aesthetic, and aesthetics are perfectly fine.
Just like the Aether II mod and their donator perks.
Those perks are all aesthetic and do not affect gameplay, and are now legal.
Nope.
Capes are aesthetic, and aesthetics are perfectly fine.
Just like the Aether II mod and their donator perks.
Those perks are all aesthetic and do not affect gameplay, and are now legal.
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There is one exception to this rule – capes! We have a lot of fun making cool capes for extra-special members of our community and Minecon attendees. We’d like to keep them as exclusive as possible. So, yeah, no capes please, for free or otherwise.
Survival of the Wittest!
You took the words out of my mouth.
We will find all your ways sooner or later anyway. I for one look at other servers for ideas for the market mainly to see what sells and what don't can't hide it for ever people have to be able to see/read be for they purchase anything. I hate adds I for one will never do that if I can't stand them why would others want to be forced to if they don't like them. Yes I also talking about these minecraft forums dang adds.
That would fit the EULA everyone had to play something upfront, but don't have to keep paying if they do all the daily's to get more time. it be kind of costly on the server though it have to keep sending pings to keep track of each players times it work though, but it still eliminate players that just can't get any money what so ever out of there parents or what ever it might be.
I don't know if there is any plugin/mod that can do what I say maybe there is one already I don't know. If not It give a programer something to build for server owners to comply with the new EULA.
If your kid stole the card, that's one thing. Punish him, send him to juvie, whatever you have to do, but don't go complaining to a company that is completely irrelevant in the matter.
Furthermore, since when has a company EVER paid attention to complaints that bear no relevance to them? It'd be like McDonalds completely redoing their menu because people were complaining to them about Burger King's food.
Pay-2-win (or pay-4-perks) is a means to enhance one's playing experience, or... level the playing field. I'm a 55 year-old granny whose pvp skills were left back in 1979. Hiding in my granny-cave was My minecraft experience. Until I received my dpp,(donor perk package). Now, I'm a diamond encased, enchanted sword swinging, bad-butt, flying mc pla-yah.
My donation helped the server owner pay for the server.
My donation helped me survive above ground like the rest of the population.
My donation helped ALL who play on server enjoy a non-vanilla game.
My donation annoys some who think it's not fair. *I will gladly donate to your inventory to help you out! If you nice.
Parents...please keep your credit cards in your pants! Too many perked-up kiddies running around in minecraft communities.
Pay-2-win (pvp play)...Why join a community like this if you are against it?
or
Pay-4-perks (non-pvp play) ...see above...
I realize all this is moot...Eula being what it is. But still, a precedence has been set. This is my argument.
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Curse PremiumHmm. . .charge a fee on the kind person that likes to spent his time on your server to help other people on it, and help the server grow ?
Logic.
They give you a custom cape if you subscribe on the website...
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Ironically, the guy's points were completely wrong.
In the 1990s, TSR the company that made D&D had plenty of lawyer money to send out C&D's to websites about D&D. Mojang sits even better with a mountain of cash that will let them continue to operate for 10 years AFTER they have become a failing business venture (not making any money).
So yeah, Mojang is flush enough with $$ to enforce whatever they want.
HAAH They can't do that no more! YAY!
No. Even the Realms team itself at minecon said that if you wanted a bigger server, you should go with a professional host. A professional host allows you to run snapshots, bukkit, modpacks, etc, and have more than 20 people.
Realms=/= big servers.
Also, I have stopped playing on Mineplex because of the overpowered played ranks. (Also the server is laggy, but on any other server I run fine.) The overpowered ranks totally take the fun out of the game. One blaze or pig in Super Smash Mobs is game over for everybody even if everybody teams on the donator.
The server is the street performer. The act is a great server to play on.
Minecraft is a game, feed the children is a bourgeois organization to wash the conscience of rich people.
"give them a fish and they will eat once, teach them how to fish and they will be fed for ever"
Also - NO. They are not using this to popularize realms. Long before Realms even existed as a concept, they expressed their dislike of the pay-to-win systems. They just happen to now be focusing their attention on it.
http://www.minecraft...d-mob-spawning/
Nope.
Capes are aesthetic, and aesthetics are perfectly fine.
Just like the Aether II mod and their donator perks.
Those perks are all aesthetic and do not affect gameplay, and are now legal.
http://www.minecraft...d-mob-spawning/
Quote from the exceptions: