I Had a Similar Experience On A Prison RP Server, Someone Assumed i was a boy, So i Politely Corrected them and said "Actually its She, Not He." A Couple Seconds After i Started getting Harassed. One boy kept saying "omg your a girl can i have your skype plz" And Another started asking Really personal questions like "omg where do u live" "are u hot?" And For Some Reason some Other guy who was a Guard, began saying "I can kill you now, you're a girl lol" So they kept Killing me And Stealing all my Hard earned stuff, The Owner did nothing about it, Even though "no killing and stealing" Was a rule Stated On the Rules board.
Why is it So Shocking that a Girl Plays Minecraft!? We can play games too!
This kinda reminds me of a server I went on before. I was with Jen, and it was a server she knew. When I joined, the owner said he could give me regular but first I have to "tell them if I'm hot." Haven't been on that server since.
I am a boy and I think girls and boys have the same rights so try again!
That's the problem. Boys think they can just harass the girls and we're gonna deal with it. But we aren't, so If you think that boys being able to harass girls while we do nothing, ^^^ there's the exit.
I am a boy And i find this type of behavior evil and for lack of better words crap I see this every once in a while but some of the most awesome Mc gamers i have met are girls. i would stand up for any girl or boy no matter what gender if they were being harassed i dont approve of this type of treatment never will and these people make me want to virtually punch them. Women's rights and mens rights the right to be treated as equals is precious every where. this isnt a boys game this Is a game for all to enjoy. so next time you see a girl on minecraft or any game dont treat her like crap treat her like another player of the fellow game dont get up in her buisness just because she is a girl and above all dont be a sexist *******
That's ****ing stupid, seeing as "offensive" is completely subjective. I could be offended by moustaches.
Well, I would be a little more persuaded by your point if you weren't instantly inclined to use such language. Yes it is subjective but obviously t-bagging someone laying down that is asking them to stop is harassment.
i asked freddy if he owned a computer in his kitchen, and i got an infraction for flame bating? im really confused. maybe it was offtopic, but how was i flaming? O.o
i asked freddy if he owned a computer in his kitchen, and i got an infraction for flame bating? im really confused. maybe it was offtopic, but how was i flaming? O.o
you made a sexist post.
you may think you were being funny, but you were really just being stupid.
if i ask someone if they have a computer in their kitchen that's sexist? i think that women are inequal to men intellectually because i ask someone where their computer is located? really?
if i ask someone if they have a computer in their kitchen that's sexist? i think that women are inequal to men intellectually because i ask someone where their computer is located? really?
then explain why their computer would be located in the kitchen instead of their room/living room/study. i'm serious, i want a full on explanation of why it would be there and how it's not sexist.
to save a post, i will present my side of the argument here:
it IS sexist, because by saying, "is your computer located in the kitchen?" you are implying that the kitchen is the only room a woman uses/only room she's allowed in. the "make me a sandwich" statement implies that she is only there to serve men.
sexist jokes a about as funny as rape jokes. [which, if you didn't get the memo, aren't funny at all.]
you may not understand what all the fuss is about, because you've never been treated like some incompetent object, the media treats them like things who's only purpose is to be eye candy for the men watching the show.
if you want me to continue i can link you to several pictures and stories of things like this happening.
Reporter: “I have a question to Robert and to Scarlett. Firstly to Robert, throughout Iron Man 1 and 2, Tony Stark started off as a very egotistical character but learns how to fight as a team. And so how did you approach this role, bearing in mind that kind of maturity as a human being when it comes to the Tony Stark character, and did you learn anything throughout the three movies that you made?
“And to Scarlett, to get into shape for Black Widow did you have anything special to do in terms of the diet, like did you have to eat any specific food, or that sort of thing?”
Scarlett: [To Robert]“How come you get the really interesting existential question, and I get the like, “rabbit food” question?”
and thus Scarlett Johansson sums up perfectly the medias stance on women.
in all seriousness theres two sides to this. Yeah, girls get harassed on the internet. its the internet. they should learn to insult the people back and make them look foolish instead of needing to call for women's rights. the world isn't perfect and complaining isn't going to solve any of its problems. and thats what this is, complaining. does anyone think that making a rule that says no sexism will prevent people from being sexist? i mean sure they will get banned if they are, but will they actually consider changing how they act on minecraft servers?
people dont respect someone who gets across their views by censoring people. what this leads to is people getting in trouble for saying things that others simply dont like. then the server loses its integrity when people hear someone was banned because someone didnt like something they said. this is really a slippery slope.
i mean even on this thread, which has some of the most experienced moderators possible (they have to be to manage a forum this big) i am getting my post deleted because i asked someone the location of their computer. yeah, maybe i said something that could be insinuated to be sexist because it involved the word kitchen and theres women in the kitchen jokes. i said nothing that directly said women are inferior though. it was just one interpretation and there were others that were equally plausible.
instituting rules on minecraft servers saying that people cant say anything sexist is really damaging. unless you think your staff can make better judgments than minecraft forum staff then you will not be able to enforce the rule fairly.
and to the girls, please just try telling the next guy who annoys you that hes fat, ugly, and has no friends. see if that works better than trying to censor what people say based on if its politically correct.
and i kept my laptop in my kitchen for 3 years because the wifi in my house didnt reach to my room...
in all seriousness theres two sides to this. Yeah, girls get harassed on the internet. its the internet. they should learn to insult the people back and make them look foolish instead of needing to call for women's rights. the world isn't perfect and complaining isn't going to solve any of its problems. and thats what this is, complaining. does anyone think that making a rule that says no sexism will prevent people from being sexist? i mean sure they will get banned if they are, but will they actually consider changing how they act on minecraft servers? yes, there are two sides to this, the side for equal rights and the side that's sexist.
people dont respect someone who gets across their views by censoring people. what this leads to is people getting in trouble for saying things that others simply dont like. then the server loses its integrity when people hear someone was banned because someone didnt like something they said. this is really a slippery slope. what if the topic was racism? would your stance be the same? is a server going to lose it's integraty because someone got banned for being racist?
i mean even on this thread, which has some of the most experienced moderators possible (they have to be to manage a forum this big) i am getting my post deleted because i asked someone the location of their computer. yeah, maybe i said something that could be insinuated to be sexist because it involved the word kitchen and theres women in the kitchen jokes. i said nothing that directly said women are inferior though. it was just one interpretation and there were others that were equally plausible. but you implied the sexist interpretation, why else would you be posting that in a thread made solely because girls have been getting harassed on servers?
instituting rules on minecraft servers saying that people cant say anything sexist is really damaging. unless you think your staff can make better judgments than minecraft forum staff then you will not be able to enforce the rule. instituting rules on minecraft servers saying that people can't say anything racist is really damaging.
and to the girls, please just try telling the next guy who annoys you that hes fat ugly and has no friends and see if that works better than trying to censor what people say based on if its politically correct. so how is this "solution" better than just banning them? banning them is much more effective.
and i kept my laptop in my kitchen for 3 years because the wifi in my house didnt reach to my room... so why didn't you bloody say that in your post? again, there may have been other "interpretations" but you impied the sexist interpretation.
The amount of sexism from us males is just.....sickening. And the fact that they can display nasty moves/skins in the game.... I mean seriously, what the **** is wrong with there damn minds? Can they not take their ****ing little minds off sex for once? Pardon the language.
"Just remember that when you are falling, turn it into a dive." ~Wookiefoot
"Why isn’t my life like a situation comedy? Why don’t I have a bunch of friends with nothing better to do but drop by and instigate wacky adventures? Why aren’t my conversations peppered with spontaneous witticisms? Why don’t my friends demonstrate heartfelt concern for my well-being when I have problems?… I gotta get my life some writers." ~Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
instituting rules on minecraft servers saying that people cant say anything sexist is really damaging. unless you think your staff can make better judgments than minecraft forum staff then you will not be able to enforce the rule fairly.
1. pretend to be a girl
2. manipulate dumb admins into banning people you dont like
3. ???
4. profit
Why complain about stupid people when you can exploit them
"yes, there are two sides to this, the side for equal rights and the side that's sexist."
theres the side for letting people say what they want, and the side for censoring what they say. i know servers are not democracies and there is no freedom of speech, but there is a point where if people cant say things they are being treated like children. if people are treated like children they act more like it.
"what if the topic was racism? would your stance be the same? is a server going to lose it's integraty because someone got banned for being racist?"
people are very rarely actually racist. they usually say really racist things and spam them just to get a rise out of people. nobody is legitimately racist anymore, or at least very few are. no one really knows what race anyone else is on the internet. anyone who says something racist is just trolling to get a rise out of someone, and directly insulting peoples ethnicity is bannable. The broad spectrum of what is considered sexist is contains a lot more than what is considered racist. If people tell a girl shes pretty in a server its sexist even though its a compliment. Telling a girl to make a sandwich is sexist because theres a stereotype that women make sandwiches. You can still tell a person from any race that they are beautiful, and probably get away with stereotypical jokes and not get banned for racism. but with sexism, there really is not as much hate required to be considered sexist. the fact is guys like girls anyways so sexism of course doesnt require the hate racism does.
if i asked someone mexican if they like tortillas, that would be the equivalent of asking a girl if shes keeps her computer in the kitchen, one is acceptable and the other isnt?
but you implied the sexist interpretation, why else would you be posting that in a thread made solely because girls have been getting harassed on servers?
so someone is sexist or racist if they imply something? you are telling me i have to be consider what other people will imply about what i write and that i can be accountable for what other people thought it meant?
instituting rules on minecraft servers saying that people can't say anything racist is really damaging.
well at a certain point it could be. if someone gets banned for something simple like asking if someone likes chinese food it would be damaging. Someone asks someone of asian decent if they like rice and they get banned because of racism. that would make no sense.
so how is this "solution" better than just banning them? banning them is much more effective.
if only people always had the power to ban.
also, if someone comes to a server and insults an admin and gets banned it looks bad for the admin. the admin wasnt able to say anything to counter the insult so they banned the player to avoid dealing with their insecurities. it does not show confidence. on the other hand if the admin can insult the person back before banning them they discredit the person and everything they said on a fair level. both players have the ability to insult each other where as only one can ban. just looks more fair.
so why didn't you bloody say that in your post? again, there may have been other "interpretations" but you impied the sexist interpretation.
i didnt imply anything sexist. are you saying that girls are so simple that when you see that someone has asked a girl if she keeps her computer in the kitchen it implies that the only thing that could be transpiring is a guy making a sexist remark to a girl. girls are so low that all guys do is make fun of them? a girl could never simply be talking about a kitchen computer with a guy?
or maybe its sexist to the guy. a stereotype that a guy cant ask a girl about anything having to do with a kitchen or hes sexist because thats the only way guys think.
anyone can really imply anything they want from anything and people should not be held accountable for what others imply.
while we are at it how about world peace and a side of fries.
Why did you ask that question in the first place? You use the word "kitchen" in the same sentence as a female, and you were not expecting a negative result? Not everyone is as "intelligent" as you. Were you simply hoping everyone would be as liberal as you want them to be and assume what you said was not in fact, sexist? Regardless if it was or not, you were clearly trying to attract attention and cause some unrest, so you could argue that what you said was not sexist at all.
The complete randomness of your question, "Do you keep your computer in the kitchen?" with the coincidence of the topic of this thread does not imply much else, dude. When you have several people telling you your question was offensive, it kind of is... Not sure why you can't just drop it, your question was deleted because a moderator deemed it offensive. You seem to be really chasing this on a thread that is about Women's Rights. Why are you pushing this so much?
people are very rarely actually racist. they usually say really racist things and spam them just to get a rise out of people.
i wasnt expecting any result, just commenting in a thread with a lot of people saying things that arnt practical in real situations. i mean its one of those things where you want to point out the ten different mistakes in the reasoning but there isnt time. i was honestly just bookmarking this so i could come back for a few laughs later after more replies piled up.
when a group as a whole collectively has false logic its really interesting to look at. but since what i said was deemed wrong in some way, now i have to point out all of the logic fails.
my comment being deemed sexist certainly has to do with women's rights. im discussing how people go too far with what they dont allow to be said because they claim it offends someone. it just ends up hurting how much a group can collaborate if they cant say simple things that really are not offensive.
This kinda reminds me of a server I went on before. I was with Jen, and it was a server she knew. When I joined, the owner said he could give me regular but first I have to "tell them if I'm hot." Haven't been on that server since.
I'm gonna try that server...
That's the problem. Boys think they can just harass the girls and we're gonna deal with it. But we aren't, so If you think that boys being able to harass girls while we do nothing, ^^^ there's the exit.
Well, I would be a little more persuaded by your point if you weren't instantly inclined to use such language. Yes it is subjective but obviously t-bagging someone laying down that is asking them to stop is harassment.
you may think you were being funny, but you were really just being stupid.
to save a post, i will present my side of the argument here:
it IS sexist, because by saying, "is your computer located in the kitchen?" you are implying that the kitchen is the only room a woman uses/only room she's allowed in. the "make me a sandwich" statement implies that she is only there to serve men.
sexist jokes a about as funny as rape jokes. [which, if you didn't get the memo, aren't funny at all.]
you may not understand what all the fuss is about, because you've never been treated like some incompetent object, the media treats them like things who's only purpose is to be eye candy for the men watching the show.
if you want me to continue i can link you to several pictures and stories of things like this happening.
“And to Scarlett, to get into shape for Black Widow did you have anything special to do in terms of the diet, like did you have to eat any specific food, or that sort of thing?”
Scarlett: [To Robert]“How come you get the really interesting existential question, and I get the like, “rabbit food” question?”
people dont respect someone who gets across their views by censoring people. what this leads to is people getting in trouble for saying things that others simply dont like. then the server loses its integrity when people hear someone was banned because someone didnt like something they said. this is really a slippery slope.
i mean even on this thread, which has some of the most experienced moderators possible (they have to be to manage a forum this big) i am getting my post deleted because i asked someone the location of their computer. yeah, maybe i said something that could be insinuated to be sexist because it involved the word kitchen and theres women in the kitchen jokes. i said nothing that directly said women are inferior though. it was just one interpretation and there were others that were equally plausible.
instituting rules on minecraft servers saying that people cant say anything sexist is really damaging. unless you think your staff can make better judgments than minecraft forum staff then you will not be able to enforce the rule fairly.
and to the girls, please just try telling the next guy who annoys you that hes fat, ugly, and has no friends. see if that works better than trying to censor what people say based on if its politically correct.
and i kept my laptop in my kitchen for 3 years because the wifi in my house didnt reach to my room...
"Just remember that when you are falling, turn it into a dive." ~Wookiefoot
"Why isn’t my life like a situation comedy? Why don’t I have a bunch of friends with nothing better to do but drop by and instigate wacky adventures? Why aren’t my conversations peppered with spontaneous witticisms? Why don’t my friends demonstrate heartfelt concern for my well-being when I have problems?… I gotta get my life some writers." ~Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
1. pretend to be a girl
2. manipulate dumb admins into banning people you dont like
3. ???
4. profit
Why complain about stupid people when you can exploit them
"yes, there are two sides to this, the side for equal rights and the side that's sexist."
theres the side for letting people say what they want, and the side for censoring what they say. i know servers are not democracies and there is no freedom of speech, but there is a point where if people cant say things they are being treated like children. if people are treated like children they act more like it.
"what if the topic was racism? would your stance be the same? is a server going to lose it's integraty because someone got banned for being racist?"
people are very rarely actually racist. they usually say really racist things and spam them just to get a rise out of people. nobody is legitimately racist anymore, or at least very few are. no one really knows what race anyone else is on the internet. anyone who says something racist is just trolling to get a rise out of someone, and directly insulting peoples ethnicity is bannable. The broad spectrum of what is considered sexist is contains a lot more than what is considered racist. If people tell a girl shes pretty in a server its sexist even though its a compliment. Telling a girl to make a sandwich is sexist because theres a stereotype that women make sandwiches. You can still tell a person from any race that they are beautiful, and probably get away with stereotypical jokes and not get banned for racism. but with sexism, there really is not as much hate required to be considered sexist. the fact is guys like girls anyways so sexism of course doesnt require the hate racism does.
if i asked someone mexican if they like tortillas, that would be the equivalent of asking a girl if shes keeps her computer in the kitchen, one is acceptable and the other isnt?
but you implied the sexist interpretation, why else would you be posting that in a thread made solely because girls have been getting harassed on servers?
so someone is sexist or racist if they imply something? you are telling me i have to be consider what other people will imply about what i write and that i can be accountable for what other people thought it meant?
instituting rules on minecraft servers saying that people can't say anything racist is really damaging.
well at a certain point it could be. if someone gets banned for something simple like asking if someone likes chinese food it would be damaging. Someone asks someone of asian decent if they like rice and they get banned because of racism. that would make no sense.
so how is this "solution" better than just banning them? banning them is much more effective.
if only people always had the power to ban.
also, if someone comes to a server and insults an admin and gets banned it looks bad for the admin. the admin wasnt able to say anything to counter the insult so they banned the player to avoid dealing with their insecurities. it does not show confidence. on the other hand if the admin can insult the person back before banning them they discredit the person and everything they said on a fair level. both players have the ability to insult each other where as only one can ban. just looks more fair.
so why didn't you bloody say that in your post? again, there may have been other "interpretations" but you impied the sexist interpretation.
i didnt imply anything sexist. are you saying that girls are so simple that when you see that someone has asked a girl if she keeps her computer in the kitchen it implies that the only thing that could be transpiring is a guy making a sexist remark to a girl. girls are so low that all guys do is make fun of them? a girl could never simply be talking about a kitchen computer with a guy?
or maybe its sexist to the guy. a stereotype that a guy cant ask a girl about anything having to do with a kitchen or hes sexist because thats the only way guys think.
anyone can really imply anything they want from anything and people should not be held accountable for what others imply.
lol
while we are at it how about world peace and a side of fries.
Yeah, because servers with mature staff don't exist.
Why did you ask that question in the first place? You use the word "kitchen" in the same sentence as a female, and you were not expecting a negative result? Not everyone is as "intelligent" as you. Were you simply hoping everyone would be as liberal as you want them to be and assume what you said was not in fact, sexist? Regardless if it was or not, you were clearly trying to attract attention and cause some unrest, so you could argue that what you said was not sexist at all.
The complete randomness of your question, "Do you keep your computer in the kitchen?" with the coincidence of the topic of this thread does not imply much else, dude. When you have several people telling you your question was offensive, it kind of is... Not sure why you can't just drop it, your question was deleted because a moderator deemed it offensive. You seem to be really chasing this on a thread that is about Women's Rights. Why are you pushing this so much?
ya i know
i wasnt expecting any result, just commenting in a thread with a lot of people saying things that arnt practical in real situations. i mean its one of those things where you want to point out the ten different mistakes in the reasoning but there isnt time. i was honestly just bookmarking this so i could come back for a few laughs later after more replies piled up.
when a group as a whole collectively has false logic its really interesting to look at. but since what i said was deemed wrong in some way, now i have to point out all of the logic fails.
my comment being deemed sexist certainly has to do with women's rights. im discussing how people go too far with what they dont allow to be said because they claim it offends someone. it just ends up hurting how much a group can collaborate if they cant say simple things that really are not offensive.