You're acting as if you know that for sure. This is all SPECULATION at the moment, as I said before not even NOTCH knows for sure who's going to get what in the end. I know you're on my "side" (if you can call it that) but I really do not want rumours getting spread any further.
Actually no, Notch said that. So, it's not speculation.
Isn't it in the terms of service or something?
Yep. We have the legal right to this content for free.
That's not exactly what I meant by replying to the full post... you just answered only the segment yet again while adding my full post.
As for this whole other matter, Minecraft was never really planned out in the first place. It's only during this beta phase that meetings for the future of this game and Mojang came into place.
And on the contrary, I really enjoy breaking into continuous debates on these forums. It's one of the only reasons I use them. Ergo, I'm happy to read your posts.
What the hell do you guys smoke before you post a topic?
Well maybe you could ask him to revoke those privileges, then? Seeing as it's creating a pointless rift within the community, sparking flame wars, etc. And you don't really even want the special status, right? Riiiight?
Yeah, thought so.
Get over it, are you too poor to pay (maybe) $5 for some add-ons?
If you had signed up for alpha and had the benefits you wouldn't be complaining. You know it, we know it.
So please, just stop.
If you hadn't signed up for alpha and hadn't the benefits you would be complaining. You know it, we know it.
So please, just stop being a hypocrite.
Nope, because I don't care as much as you obviously do.
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That's not exactly what I meant by replying to the full post... you just answered only the segment yet again while adding my full post.
Alright, spelling out time it is, then.
I only quoted the small segment because I didn't have anything to say about the rest of it. I removed it to not bloat the post needlessly.
Wow, you seriously don't get what he's saying? You are only responding to one part of his post. He is not talking about what you are quoting, he is talking about what you are responding to.
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I didn't find out about this game until beta, so I have to pay for DLC. So what, I have a job and don't mind spending money to support something that brings me a lot of entertainment.
As for this whole other matter, Minecraft was never really planned out in the first place. It's only during this beta phase that meetings for the future of this game and Mojang came into place.
How's that any kind of excuse? Selling a to-be-finished product without even knowing what it's going to be seems really fishy and irresponsible to me.
That's why it's entirely up to the user whether or not to buy it. Look at me, I bought Driftmoon even though it only has about 3 hours worth of material implemented at the moment, even though I could've waited 1 more week and gotten the feature-packed Terraria. Am I sore about it? Yes. Was it my choice? Yes. Can I rightfully object to this purchase? No.
What the hell do you guys smoke before you post a topic?
Well maybe you could ask him to revoke those privileges, then? Seeing as it's creating a pointless rift within the community, sparking flame wars, etc. And you don't really even want the special status, right? Riiiight?
Yeah, thought so.
Get over it, are you too poor to pay (maybe) $5 for some add-ons?
Exactly, this was what I was thinking. It's not that much of a cost (Because duh, DLC won't cost as much as the game. You can figure this out why yourself.)
On the World of Notch, December 11th 2010:
Minecraft Beta: December 20, 2010
The next epoch is upon us! The skies are trembling, pigs are growing wings, and the nether is turning awfully cold, as Minecraft slowly crawls out of Alpha..
Minecraft will reach Beta status on December 20th, 2010.
With Beta comes a larger focus on polish and content, and we’ll start early on with adding proper modding support with a stable API, and we’d love all input we can get on this from the modders out there. We’ll also add some kind of non-intrusive narrative to the game to help drive the game experience early on, and to provide some kind of late game goal. There will be a bigger focus on testing and stability as well, with more time between updates.
When the game enters beta, the price will rise to 14.95 Euro.
We will also change the license to remove the line that promises all future versions of the game for free. Please note that this change only affects people who buy the game after December 20, so if you got the game for during alpha, you will still get all future updates for free, despite this change. A promise is a promise.
Buying the game during beta will include all updates up until release, of course, and bug patches will be free.
Soon, you will be able to buy gift codes for Minecraft, perfectly timed for the holidays! Even better, if you buy those before December 20, accounts created from these codes will count as alpha accounts, and will receive all future updates for free.
And the next game update (with server-side inventory) is coming next week, before Beta
Merry holidays happy! :biggrin.gif:
Granted it's not terms and conditions, but there was something saying about it, in red letters, on the Terms and Conditions when Beta was first released.
Granted it's not terms and conditions, but there was something saying about it, in red letters, on the Terms and Conditions when Beta was first released.
Actually, this was a month or so BEFORE beta was released, so people had plenty of time to buy it in alpha before then.
I didn't find out about this game until beta, so I have to pay for DLC. So what, I have a job and don't mind spending money to support something that brings me a lot of entertainment.
oh thank god a beta player that gets that notch changed the legal terms instead of all theese people that dont get that notch can do what ever he f ing wants with the legal terms i mean he could put in the legal terms that you can no loneger mod because its his company and his game
Granted it's not terms and conditions, but there was something saying about it, in red letters, on the Terms and Conditions when Beta was first released.
Actually, this was a month or so BEFORE beta was released, so people had plenty of time to buy it in alpha before then.
Yeah. I meant like, when Beta was released, there were red letters and big font in the terms and conditions because of confusion. That world of notch post was before Beta.
It's a question of principle, not money. I didn't have to pay for the game itself if I didn't want to, it's not like there aren't ways of getting it for free.
You can just do that then, no-ones going to stop you.
Life is full of "Oh **** if only I acted sooner . . . "
I had to pay 65 dollars for Portal2 on easter because I forgot to pre-order and I could have gotten 15 dollars off at BestBuy. But I still loved every minute of the gameplay as much as the price pissed me off.
But hey, at least you don't have to pay more money for the final version like everyone else will.
You should always . . . well I got a video for such situations.
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Sordid_Dreams seems to be the only one (minus the OP) that gives a **** about this...
I purchased Minecraft during beta, sure, I'm a little disappointed that I'll need to pay for dlc now (if I even want to anyway) but I'm not throwing a fit.
Sordid_Dreams seems to be the only one (minus the OP) that gives a **** about this...
I purchased Minecraft during beta, sure, I'm a little disappointed that I'll need to pay for dlc now (if I even want to anyway) but I'm not throwing a fit.
Man up people, not everything in life is fair.
Yeah, but he is single-handedly pushing this topic along.
What part of "stop being a hypocrite" did you not understand?
I think you need to go look up the definition of hypocrite because it doesn't mean whatever you think it does.
Enlighten me, then. What do you think I think it means? And what do you think it means? I'm really curious now.
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It's a question of principle, not money. I didn't have to pay for the game itself if I didn't want to, it's not like there aren't ways of getting it for free.
You can just do that then, no-ones going to stop you.
Have you even been paying attention? I've been banging on about fairness and principles, and that's what you suggest? Or are you just trolling me now?
Do you show up late to sales and demand the same pricing just because you weren't there or something? That's about the same logic, there's nothing "morally wrong" with giving people that invested early an advantage later on in cost.
So please, just stop.
Yep. We have the legal right to this content for free.
That's not exactly what I meant by replying to the full post... you just answered only the segment yet again while adding my full post.
As for this whole other matter, Minecraft was never really planned out in the first place. It's only during this beta phase that meetings for the future of this game and Mojang came into place.
And on the contrary, I really enjoy breaking into continuous debates on these forums. It's one of the only reasons I use them. Ergo, I'm happy to read your posts.
Get over it, are you too poor to pay (maybe) $5 for some add-ons?
Nope, because I don't care as much as you obviously do.
Wow, you seriously don't get what he's saying? You are only responding to one part of his post. He is not talking about what you are quoting, he is talking about what you are responding to.
That's why it's entirely up to the user whether or not to buy it. Look at me, I bought Driftmoon even though it only has about 3 hours worth of material implemented at the moment, even though I could've waited 1 more week and gotten the feature-packed Terraria. Am I sore about it? Yes. Was it my choice? Yes. Can I rightfully object to this purchase? No.
Exactly, this was what I was thinking. It's not that much of a cost (Because duh, DLC won't cost as much as the game. You can figure this out why yourself.)
On the World of Notch, December 11th 2010:
Granted it's not terms and conditions, but there was something saying about it, in red letters, on the Terms and Conditions when Beta was first released.
Actually, this was a month or so BEFORE beta was released, so people had plenty of time to buy it in alpha before then.
oh thank god a beta player that gets that notch changed the legal terms instead of all theese people that dont get that notch can do what ever he f ing wants with the legal terms i mean he could put in the legal terms that you can no loneger mod because its his company and his game
Yeah. I meant like, when Beta was released, there were red letters and big font in the terms and conditions because of confusion. That world of notch post was before Beta.
You can just do that then, no-ones going to stop you.
I think you need to go look up the definition of hypocrite because it doesn't mean whatever you think it does.
Life is full of "Oh **** if only I acted sooner . . . "
I had to pay 65 dollars for Portal2 on easter because I forgot to pre-order and I could have gotten 15 dollars off at BestBuy. But I still loved every minute of the gameplay as much as the price pissed me off.
But hey, at least you don't have to pay more money for the final version like everyone else will.
You should always . . . well I got a video for such situations.
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
I purchased Minecraft during beta, sure, I'm a little disappointed that I'll need to pay for dlc now (if I even want to anyway) but I'm not throwing a fit.
Man up people, not everything in life is fair.
Just saying.
Yeah, but he is single-handedly pushing this topic along.
Do you show up late to sales and demand the same pricing just because you weren't there or something? That's about the same logic, there's nothing "morally wrong" with giving people that invested early an advantage later on in cost.