Welcome. Union for Technological Development is the largest, and first thread dedicated to technological evolution in MineCraft. So what do we do exactly? We support indie modders, lobby for new features and API's, have dedicated technological discussions, and even create our own products. Anybody can participate, but you must know that we are not open membership. We urge anyone to participate, and any user can apply, as long as they vow to be active and bring worthwhile material to the table.
So how did it start? It was a breezy, sunny day. I was browsing PlanetMinecraft.com, and suddenly something caught my eye. A 27-bit computer. I was breathless, a computer inside a computer. I quickly headed to the forums and started this thread. Only it wasn't called UTD, it went by the simple name of "Redstone Computers" I quickly started receiving posts. I had big ideas, entire games inside of MineCraft. There was doubt, and even hate, but in the end we had a lot of constructive discussions. Soon, I changed the name to "Unity for Redstone Computing." After I met Zaldarr, he wrote a bedazzling proposal for a tech thread. At first I was skeptical, I liked what I was doing. Then, he told me that no other threads dedicated to technological development existed. I thought it over, and about two days later, me and him formed "Unity for Technological Development," which was later changed to "Union for Technological Development" It was three members for a long time, myself, Zaldarr, and themuffin. I was always the main thinker. Zaldarr was optimistic, and came up with some great ideas. As for themuffin, he was always the harsh one, always firm, but cared deeply about the cause. We later met sacre, the creator of NewCraft, a city I had discovered. We quickly accepted him.
I then began thinking more and more. I drew up a plan to add several "Products" produced by UTD. They involved heavily complex redstone design. We soon realized none of us were engineers, and we set off to find some. I was browsing Planet Minecraft, when I saw the ingame Pac-Man machine. I was like "This is possible?" I left a comment saying we were in need of his skills, sure enough he joined. He also created a high-speed server for us. Unfortunately, although Berick was good with redstone, he didn't know much about computers. We continued searching, until we met bluedragontao. He offered a range of knowledge so much greater than our own at that time. He knew all about computers, and how to design them. We had, and still have big plans.
Below is a link to a larger version of our goals, and better descriptions of them. Made by themuffin, it needs updating, but hopefully we will get him back soon.
This was made by supporter Donoteat, one of our sponsores. Just copy the code into your signature from the User Control Panel<Profile<Signature and you will wear the UTD banner with pride every time you leave a post.
I can't wait until Notch ups the redstone system up a notch (pun unintended).
Computers with games in em'? Awesome.
"Hey, Mac1787, wanna play some Tetris?"
"Sure, how?"
"I have a computer in Minecraft that can simulate Tetris."
"o_O"
"I know, I just blew your mind, didn't I?"
I can't wait until Notch ups the redstone system up a notch (pun unintended).
Computers with games in em'? Awesome.
"Hey, Mac1787, wanna play some Tetris?"
"Sure, how?"
"I have a computer in Minecraft that can simulate Tetris."
"o_O"
"I know, I just blew your mind, didn't I?"
Great Idea, just as a note, if anybody wants to send this post or any ideas to notch, just email [email protected]
I can't wait until Notch ups the redstone system up a notch (pun unintended).
Computers with games in em'? Awesome.
"Hey, Mac1787, wanna play some Tetris?"
"Sure, how?"
"I have a computer in Minecraft that can simulate Tetris."
"o_O"
"I know, I just blew your mind, didn't I?"
Great Idea, just as a note, if anybody wants to send this post or any ideas to notch, just email [email protected]
Nyeh. I always go off-topic when I talk about a new idea thought by me.
It's a habit.
I can't wait until Notch ups the redstone system up a notch (pun unintended).
Computers with games in em'? Awesome.
"Hey, Mac1787, wanna play some Tetris?"
"Sure, how?"
"I have a computer in Minecraft that can simulate Tetris."
"o_O"
"I know, I just blew your mind, didn't I?"
Great Idea, just as a note, if anybody wants to send this post or any ideas to notch, just email [email protected]
Nyeh. I always go off-topic when I talk about a new idea thought by me.
It's a habit.
Fair enough, when this thread dies I may send it to him.
We’ll never have real computers, because of the obvious limitation of CPU usage and so forth. MInecraft is already a pretty big CPU hog, and having to simulate millions of redstone interactions would be like detonating a 1000-wide cube of TNT, i.e. it’d crash faster than a junkie who’s been stringing himself out on heroin for three weeks and just ran out of syringes.
Simpler things are doable, like arithmetic machines and games like Pong or (to take your example) Tetris. But it’d be nigh on impossible to build a multifunctional computer with a working display. You just can’t simulate it with this software.
We’ll never have real computers, because of the obvious limitation of CPU usage and so forth. MInecraft is already a pretty big CPU hog, and having to simulate millions of redstone interactions would be like detonating a 1000-wide cube of TNT, i.e. it’d crash faster than a junkie who’s been stringing himself out on heroin for three weeks and just ran out of syringes.
Simpler things are doable, like arithmetic machines and games like Pong or (to take your example) Tetris. But it’d be nigh on impossible to build a multifunctional computer with a working display. You just can’t simulate it with this software.
Starcraft II on Extreme graphics in a Minecraft computer?
Probably not. But a guy can dream. =D
We’ll never have real computers, because of the obvious limitation of CPU usage and so forth. MInecraft is already a pretty big CPU hog, and having to simulate millions of redstone interactions would be like detonating a 1000-wide cube of TNT, i.e. it’d crash faster than a junkie who’s been stringing himself out on heroin for three weeks and just ran out of syringes.
Simpler things are doable, like arithmetic machines and games like Pong or (to take your example) Tetris. But it’d be nigh on impossible to build a multifunctional computer with a working display. You just can’t simulate it with this software.
I disagree, Sure, advanced games, no, but I have detonated much more that 1000 blocks of tnt, thats for sure.
Personally, I think its all in the programming, I believe basic games such as minesweeper, solitare, and even basic 2d rpg's, not to mention text and image games, not only games though, i mean the possibilities for creating a digital map!
This is getting Inception-like, or "Yo Dawg"-like... A game in a game. Let's play Minecraft while playing Minecraft while playing Minecraft while playing Tetris.
This is getting Inception-like, or "Yo Dawg"-like... A game in a game. Let's play Minecraft while playing Minecraft while playing Minecraft while playing Tetris.
Yeah that actually is funny, but games could be cool when waiting for night to end, especially if you have no weapons on you.
We’ll never have real computers, because of the obvious limitation of CPU usage and so forth. MInecraft is already a pretty big CPU hog, and having to simulate millions of redstone interactions would be like detonating a 1000-wide cube of TNT, i.e. it’d crash faster than a junkie who’s been stringing himself out on heroin for three weeks and just ran out of syringes.
Simpler things are doable, like arithmetic machines and games like Pong or (to take your example) Tetris. But it’d be nigh on impossible to build a multifunctional computer with a working display. You just can’t simulate it with this software.
Nope. A redstone circuit will not crash minecraft. A wire only carries a charge fifteen blocks and repeaters introduce delays when carrying charges, so a multifunctional Minecraft computer would not be impossible to make, its operation would just be incredibly slow.
...I do wonder however whether a redstone circuit will work if some parts of it are not loaded into memory. If not, I don't think it would crash Minecraft, anyway, the circuit just wouldn't work.
I'm going to get back on the topic of research and scientific uses.
The bracelet that will map paths, mines, and mineral findings is a good idea in my opinion, an expansion would be getting the computer to actually compare mineral findings in different mines and come up with a preference based on the data.
Depth testing is also an option, the computer being able to generate a mine map within a general vicinity (depending on the complexity of the computer.)
I think the most important thing is base management though, having a supercomputer in the middle of your base that can activate certain functions such as harvest wheat, (possibly into chest if notch adds that feature for auto-wheat farms) crowd suppression (Lava and arrow cannon, and as a last resort a tnt cannon, magazine management and ammo counting for advanced cannons (a magazine cannon is yet to exist due to current physics), protection from being robbed (such as password protection on rooms without the need for several different logic gates.), And always as a last resort on SMP or a mob invasion (if a red moon type scenario occurred) you can always take them down with you, with a self destruct sequence with timer.
All of these ideas are not out of the realm, they are fairly simple commands, some of which already exist in game such as password protection and remote cannon and lava deployment. I think that if the Mojang team really took some time to put this code in, it would be possible.
Obviously a powerful computer would be huge, which is why we would need to be able to store data in a smaller source, such as a hard- drive type block, this would maximize computing potential.
EDIT: I dont think it would need to be slow based on current redstone physics, there can always be a code exception made, and that's why this is practically impossible unless its actually implemented by Mojang.
There are very basic examples but they're massive constructs. Eventually you would get outside the loaded chunk area and it wouldn't work any more. If Notch ever implements the ability to build redstone circuits in a block, it could be quite possible to build far more complex systems. How well they would perform is another question.
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There are very basic examples but they're massive constructs. Eventually you would get outside the loaded chunk area and it wouldn't work any more. If Notch ever implements the ability to build redstone circuits in a block, it could be quite possible to build far more complex systems. How well they would perform is another question.
I think compressing circuits would seal the deal, but another graphics setting that wouldn't have to display all the moving parts might be needed for slower computers.
Am I the only one who doesnt understand how a few eletric wires in minecraft make a damn computer?
or is there something im missing? im general, redstone circuits are confusing to me but this makes no sense unless someone explains.
Well its simple, its the same thing as basic computers in the 50s, you know, the ones the size of football fields that could barely do simple math. Redstone is much more advanced than you give credit for, play the game a few months, build the Imperial Avenger 9.08 SPEW, and you will understand redstone.
I also got another idea for base defense, modified monster spawners that will fight unfriendlys and spawns are controllable via the computer. That way you wouldn't have creepers walking around when you don't need them.
Don't mean to triple post but ideas are flowing into my head.
Imagine a console that can be accessed via the inventory, that could link to the computer. You could activate functions as you need them, such as cannons/farms. (all the stuff discussed above) If Mojang adds OFFICIAL Florescent lighting, you could adjust the brightness, and maybe even color. You could also see a 3d rendering of a marked area to check on your map and structures, a stripped down version of mcedit or cartographer basically. Auto-cobble generators could be created..
Another idea is computer maintenance, what about shutting the computer down? What about overheating? That might be a bit out of the realm, just another idea, I'm free writing here.
Welcome. Union for Technological Development is the largest, and first thread dedicated to technological evolution in MineCraft. So what do we do exactly? We support indie modders, lobby for new features and API's, have dedicated technological discussions, and even create our own products. Anybody can participate, but you must know that we are not open membership. We urge anyone to participate, and any user can apply, as long as they vow to be active and bring worthwhile material to the table.
So how did it start? It was a breezy, sunny day. I was browsing PlanetMinecraft.com, and suddenly something caught my eye. A 27-bit computer. I was breathless, a computer inside a computer. I quickly headed to the forums and started this thread. Only it wasn't called UTD, it went by the simple name of "Redstone Computers" I quickly started receiving posts. I had big ideas, entire games inside of MineCraft. There was doubt, and even hate, but in the end we had a lot of constructive discussions. Soon, I changed the name to "Unity for Redstone Computing." After I met Zaldarr, he wrote a bedazzling proposal for a tech thread. At first I was skeptical, I liked what I was doing. Then, he told me that no other threads dedicated to technological development existed. I thought it over, and about two days later, me and him formed "Unity for Technological Development," which was later changed to "Union for Technological Development" It was three members for a long time, myself, Zaldarr, and themuffin. I was always the main thinker. Zaldarr was optimistic, and came up with some great ideas. As for themuffin, he was always the harsh one, always firm, but cared deeply about the cause. We later met sacre, the creator of NewCraft, a city I had discovered. We quickly accepted him.
I then began thinking more and more. I drew up a plan to add several "Products" produced by UTD. They involved heavily complex redstone design. We soon realized none of us were engineers, and we set off to find some. I was browsing Planet Minecraft, when I saw the ingame Pac-Man machine. I was like "This is possible?" I left a comment saying we were in need of his skills, sure enough he joined. He also created a high-speed server for us. Unfortunately, although Berick was good with redstone, he didn't know much about computers. We continued searching, until we met bluedragontao. He offered a range of knowledge so much greater than our own at that time. He knew all about computers, and how to design them. We had, and still have big plans.
Below is a link to a larger version of our goals, and better descriptions of them. Made by themuffin, it needs updating, but hopefully we will get him back soon.
Second Draft of the UTD Project Specification
The UTD Designs thread, where all of our designs and free stuff is.
UTD Designs
This was made by supporter Donoteat, one of our sponsores. Just copy the code into your signature from the User Control Panel<Profile<Signature and you will wear the UTD banner with pride every time you leave a post.
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Computers with games in em'? Awesome.
Great Idea, just as a note, if anybody wants to send this post or any ideas to notch, just email [email protected]
Nyeh. I always go off-topic when I talk about a new idea thought by me.
It's a habit.
Fair enough, when this thread dies I may send it to him.
Simpler things are doable, like arithmetic machines and games like Pong or (to take your example) Tetris. But it’d be nigh on impossible to build a multifunctional computer with a working display. You just can’t simulate it with this software.
Starcraft II on Extreme graphics in a Minecraft computer?
Probably not. But a guy can dream. =D
I disagree, Sure, advanced games, no, but I have detonated much more that 1000 blocks of tnt, thats for sure.
Personally, I think its all in the programming, I believe basic games such as minesweeper, solitare, and even basic 2d rpg's, not to mention text and image games, not only games though, i mean the possibilities for creating a digital map!
Yeah that actually is funny, but games could be cool when waiting for night to end, especially if you have no weapons on you.
Nope. A redstone circuit will not crash minecraft. A wire only carries a charge fifteen blocks and repeaters introduce delays when carrying charges, so a multifunctional Minecraft computer would not be impossible to make, its operation would just be incredibly slow.
...I do wonder however whether a redstone circuit will work if some parts of it are not loaded into memory. If not, I don't think it would crash Minecraft, anyway, the circuit just wouldn't work.
The bracelet that will map paths, mines, and mineral findings is a good idea in my opinion, an expansion would be getting the computer to actually compare mineral findings in different mines and come up with a preference based on the data.
Depth testing is also an option, the computer being able to generate a mine map within a general vicinity (depending on the complexity of the computer.)
I think the most important thing is base management though, having a supercomputer in the middle of your base that can activate certain functions such as harvest wheat, (possibly into chest if notch adds that feature for auto-wheat farms) crowd suppression (Lava and arrow cannon, and as a last resort a tnt cannon, magazine management and ammo counting for advanced cannons (a magazine cannon is yet to exist due to current physics), protection from being robbed (such as password protection on rooms without the need for several different logic gates.), And always as a last resort on SMP or a mob invasion (if a red moon type scenario occurred) you can always take them down with you, with a self destruct sequence with timer.
All of these ideas are not out of the realm, they are fairly simple commands, some of which already exist in game such as password protection and remote cannon and lava deployment. I think that if the Mojang team really took some time to put this code in, it would be possible.
Obviously a powerful computer would be huge, which is why we would need to be able to store data in a smaller source, such as a hard- drive type block, this would maximize computing potential.
EDIT: I dont think it would need to be slow based on current redstone physics, there can always be a code exception made, and that's why this is practically impossible unless its actually implemented by Mojang.
As I posted earlier, it has been done.
http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/ ... puter-384/
My Spigot/CraftBukkit plugins:
TallNether - Generate a 256-block high nether
FarLandsAgain - Restores the Far Lands
User: *BOOM* You're dead.
Cleverbot: I divide by zero and come back as an angel ninja.
I think compressing circuits would seal the deal, but another graphics setting that wouldn't have to display all the moving parts might be needed for slower computers.
Well its simple, its the same thing as basic computers in the 50s, you know, the ones the size of football fields that could barely do simple math. Redstone is much more advanced than you give credit for, play the game a few months, build the Imperial Avenger 9.08 SPEW, and you will understand redstone.
Imagine a console that can be accessed via the inventory, that could link to the computer. You could activate functions as you need them, such as cannons/farms. (all the stuff discussed above) If Mojang adds OFFICIAL Florescent lighting, you could adjust the brightness, and maybe even color. You could also see a 3d rendering of a marked area to check on your map and structures, a stripped down version of mcedit or cartographer basically. Auto-cobble generators could be created..
Another idea is computer maintenance, what about shutting the computer down? What about overheating? That might be a bit out of the realm, just another idea, I'm free writing here.
you just got powned.