Ok, so minecraft is a perfectly fine game, even a very nice game, so why do I see so many racist things? I've seen the n word up a lot, and tons of swastikas, and I just wanna know why. Some of these things obviously had a lot of work put into them
and some were even made by opps, proving that their not just griefers trying to annoy people, someone took the time to build really complex swastika, so that couldn't be a griefer. Then there are all the penises getting jizz on blocky woman, and that's just sexist. I have also heard a few people say that building penises is "gay", but it's not really, it's just stupid (not defending those who build penises, they suck). Why do you all think about this?
The nature of player-controlled servers prevents authority figures from limiting what people who access them are exposed to. Take solace in the fact that the administrative team does not agree with any hate-based prejudices or related symbols. In my experience, many of the people who erect such things are only interested in the "shock value" of them and often don't even have a definitive opinion either way.
I disagree personally with things of this nature but am willing to accept that it is only the cost of allowing players to govern their own servers. My advice is that if you cannot abide by content presented, simply find a more accommodating server to play on and hope for the best. Most of all, though, try not to let any of it "get" to you.
Well, when I had a couple of servers last month, a few OPs sparked up a conversation about this very subject, so we just came to the conclusion of NO RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS/ICONS
Horrible rule, I know, but it made the people on the server happy. o.o
EDIT: Oh and btw, this is Minecraft related, so it could go into Minecraft Discussion.
I think that whatever the server allows, it allows. If you get banned for a racist comment, then so be it. But common sense in trolls really isn't found.
Then there are all the penises getting jizz on blocky woman, and that's just sexist.
I'm saying it's a good thing, but how is that sexist? If i have sex with a girl does that mean I believe womwn are inferior? No, that just either I love her or we feel like having fun.
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I wouldn't listen to a thing I say. I'm probably insane.
Then there are all the penises getting jizz on blocky woman, and that's just sexist.
I'm saying it's a good thing, but how is that sexist? If i have sex with a girl does that mean I believe womwn are inferior? No, that just either I love her or we feel like having fun.
I personally find the idea of a guy firing manfat all over a woman... just... wrong...
Also remember that it is originally Hindu, and is used in many modern religions.
i really doubt they're thinking "omg i am so hindu lol" when they create them, and most religions that have used that symbol really don't use it that often anymore ever since the holocaust.
to everyone complaining about racism and sexism and some other -ism's, you have to remember that you're inviting anyone and everyone into your server when you put it on the public list. controlling these sort of things is virtually impossible, because for every griefer or troll that you ban, another one comes along and expresses the exact same behavior. the best defense against these things is to just keep doing what you're doing. for everyone else that is offended by their behavior, don't take it to heart, this is the internet.
Their server, their rules. Personally I believe it's quite stupid to be insulted by a flag.
Unless you're Jewish.
Which would imply only Jews were targets of the holocaust.
And that every Jew is offended by the mere use of the symbol.
These are often built by people trying to get a rise out of you. For those of you who haven't been on the internet for more than 5 minutes, 99% of racists on the intarbuttz are really just perfectly fine, tolerant people trying to make you angry for lulz.
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Then there are all the penises getting jizz on blocky woman, and that's just sexist.
I find the idea that no woman would want to be "jizzed on" to be sexist. Plenty of people enjoy giving oral sex just as much as they enjoy getting it.
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I have also heard a few people say that building penises is "gay", but it's not really, it's just stupid (not defending those who build penises, they suck).
This would imply you think "gay" is a better insult than "stupid".
Their server, their rules. Personally I believe it's quite stupid to be insulted by a flag.
Unless you're Jewish.
Which would imply only Jews were targets of the holocaust.
And that every Jew is offended by the mere use of the symbol.
No, but if anyone is to be offended, they are likely to be ones who are, by such imagery. Never did I imply either of those things you suggested I did.
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Plenty of people enjoy giving oral sex just as much as they enjoy getting it.
I disagree, I think the person on the recieving end prefers it, the person giving it is just expressing love for the other person, not necessarily doing it for enjoyment. However, not to say that there aren't people who do enjoy giving it.
Although, this:
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you've completely blown it out of proportion. the fact of the matter is that sort of content shouldn't be displayed on public servers.
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I have also heard a few people say that building penises is "gay", but it's not really, it's just stupid (not defending those who build penises, they suck).
This would imply you think "gay" is a better insult than "stupid".
No, he's saying people suggested it was "gay" to build penises, when in fact it is just immature stupidity, not anything to do with homosexuality.
Everything you have said suggests they you have no idea about the context it which people have said things. Amirite?
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I built one out of books.
And lived in it.
And, now it is clear why you would defend the building of profane imagery.
And, now it is clear why you would defend the building of profane imagery.
Oh, hey, remember that time I said it was okay to build swastikas and dicks on other people's servers?
Neither do I.
I only said it's not a big deal and reminded people that getting angry is exactly what the griefer wants. Then I recounted a vaguely related story about an immature joke between a friend and I to lighten the mood.
Nothing in anything I have said encourages people to build swastikas and dicks.
If you really want me to clarify my position: Griefing is wrong, duh. Just don't make a big deal out of it, or you're doing exactly what they're trying to get you to do. Dealing with a griefer calmly and efficiently makes them less likely to come back.
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No, but if anyone is to be offended, they are likely to be ones who are, by such imagery. Never did I imply either of those things you suggested I did.
Your comment made no mention of people other than Jews possibly being insulted by a swastika, and implied that they were very high-risk of being insulted by a swastika. Most Jewish people I know wouldn't even think twice about it, because at this point, we know racism is barbaric and people who practice it aren't worth paying attention to.
Oh, and furthermore, several symbols of gay pride have been changed due to being similar to tags Nazis used to identify homosexuals in concentration camps. So, there's another example of a large modern minority sensitive to Nazi symbolism. Also, there was a shitton of big words in that sentence.
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Plenty of people enjoy giving oral sex just as much as they enjoy getting it.
I disagree, I think the person on the recieving end prefers it, the person giving it is just expressing love for the other person, not necessarily doing it for enjoyment. However, not to say that there aren't people who do enjoy giving it.
I enjoy doing it, and I know several other people who do as well.
I realize that this is fodder for someone trying to making me out to be a promiscuous deviant, so go ahead, if you want to take that route.
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No, he's saying people suggested it was "gay" to build penises, when in fact it is just immature stupidity, not anything to do with homosexuality.
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I have also heard a few people say that building penises is "gay", but it's not really, it's just stupid (not defending those who build penises, they suck).
To paraphrase into my interpretation: "I have heard people call the griefers "gay", but I believe they are just stupid. This does not mean I defend them." I believe the message being conveyed here is that "They suck, but not enough to be considered gay". I'm not him, though, so I don't know. You're not him, either.
This is why I use the "imply" intro, because when wording is too vague I can't tell if it's something I object to or not, and I don't want to go off on someone who hasn't actually said anything wrong.
If I interpret someone's stance wrong, I always apologize, so long as they're mindful not to become openly hostile over a misinterpretation.
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Everything you have said suggests they you have no idea about the context it which people have said things. Amirite?
Everything you have said suggests that you have no idea how to be snarky without making it a personal attack on the opposition, amirite?
Seriously, do you know what you accused me of just now? You accused me of condoning the building of dicks and racial supremacy symbols on strangers' servers. And then you accused me of reading too far into what other people say. What the hell?
Edit: Hmm. There could be a debate topic here. I'm not saying we should move there, but after this, we could start one on whether pornography is sexist.
Minecraft is a game that kids should be able to play without their parents feeling that it was too dirty for them.
I think it's good manners to build considerately of anyone who might play.
Take in to account that it's against US law (Actually haven't exactly checked this one, so plz to be forgiving me if I'm wrong) for a person under 13 to play a game or contribute to a forum with open, unrestricted chat. That's why you have to be 13 to get in to a forum and why a lot of sites like neopets or webkinz (I have a sister) restrict chat or only allow chat for those over 13.
And, 13-year-olds have been to middle school shower rooms. They have heard much worse.
Now, before someone explodes on me, I'm going to reiterate: Don't build dicks and swastikas on servers, it's wrong and gross and why would you do that oh my god.
and some were even made by opps, proving that their not just griefers trying to annoy people, someone took the time to build really complex swastika, so that couldn't be a griefer. Then there are all the penises getting jizz on blocky woman, and that's just sexist. I have also heard a few people say that building penises is "gay", but it's not really, it's just stupid (not defending those who build penises, they suck). Why do you all think about this?
I disagree personally with things of this nature but am willing to accept that it is only the cost of allowing players to govern their own servers. My advice is that if you cannot abide by content presented, simply find a more accommodating server to play on and hope for the best. Most of all, though, try not to let any of it "get" to you.
Relic of a bygone age.
Horrible rule, I know, but it made the people on the server happy. o.o
EDIT: Oh and btw, this is Minecraft related, so it could go into Minecraft Discussion.
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I'm saying it's a good thing, but how is that sexist? If i have sex with a girl does that mean I believe womwn are inferior? No, that just either I love her or we feel like having fun.
I wouldn't listen to a thing I say. I'm probably insane.
I personally find the idea of a guy firing manfat all over a woman... just... wrong...
i really doubt they're thinking "omg i am so hindu lol" when they create them, and most religions that have used that symbol really don't use it that often anymore ever since the holocaust.
to everyone complaining about racism and sexism and some other -ism's, you have to remember that you're inviting anyone and everyone into your server when you put it on the public list. controlling these sort of things is virtually impossible, because for every griefer or troll that you ban, another one comes along and expresses the exact same behavior. the best defense against these things is to just keep doing what you're doing. for everyone else that is offended by their behavior, don't take it to heart, this is the internet.
Not when tilted on their side like that, they aren't.
Unless you're Jewish.
Which would imply only Jews were targets of the holocaust.
And that every Jew is offended by the mere use of the symbol.
These are often built by people trying to get a rise out of you. For those of you who haven't been on the internet for more than 5 minutes, 99% of racists on the intarbuttz are really just perfectly fine, tolerant people trying to make you angry for lulz.
I find the idea that no woman would want to be "jizzed on" to be sexist. Plenty of people enjoy giving oral sex just as much as they enjoy getting it.
This would imply you think "gay" is a better insult than "stupid".
you've completely blown it out of proportion. the fact of the matter is that sort of content shouldn't be displayed on public servers.
I built one out of books.
And lived in it.
Like some kind of deranged library penis hermit.
Only now do I realize how very strange that is.
No, but if anyone is to be offended, they are likely to be ones who are, by such imagery. Never did I imply either of those things you suggested I did.
I disagree, I think the person on the recieving end prefers it, the person giving it is just expressing love for the other person, not necessarily doing it for enjoyment. However, not to say that there aren't people who do enjoy giving it.
Although, this:
No, he's saying people suggested it was "gay" to build penises, when in fact it is just immature stupidity, not anything to do with homosexuality.
Everything you have said suggests they you have no idea about the context it which people have said things. Amirite?
And, now it is clear why you would defend the building of profane imagery.
hehe just kidding, but i do agree with all of your points, zuriki.
Oh, hey, remember that time I said it was okay to build swastikas and dicks on other people's servers?
Neither do I.
I only said it's not a big deal and reminded people that getting angry is exactly what the griefer wants. Then I recounted a vaguely related story about an immature joke between a friend and I to lighten the mood.
Nothing in anything I have said encourages people to build swastikas and dicks.
If you really want me to clarify my position: Griefing is wrong, duh. Just don't make a big deal out of it, or you're doing exactly what they're trying to get you to do. Dealing with a griefer calmly and efficiently makes them less likely to come back.
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Your comment made no mention of people other than Jews possibly being insulted by a swastika, and implied that they were very high-risk of being insulted by a swastika. Most Jewish people I know wouldn't even think twice about it, because at this point, we know racism is barbaric and people who practice it aren't worth paying attention to.
Oh, and furthermore, several symbols of gay pride have been changed due to being similar to tags Nazis used to identify homosexuals in concentration camps. So, there's another example of a large modern minority sensitive to Nazi symbolism. Also, there was a shitton of big words in that sentence.
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I enjoy doing it, and I know several other people who do as well.
I realize that this is fodder for someone trying to making me out to be a promiscuous deviant, so go ahead, if you want to take that route.
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To paraphrase into my interpretation: "I have heard people call the griefers "gay", but I believe they are just stupid. This does not mean I defend them." I believe the message being conveyed here is that "They suck, but not enough to be considered gay". I'm not him, though, so I don't know. You're not him, either.
This is why I use the "imply" intro, because when wording is too vague I can't tell if it's something I object to or not, and I don't want to go off on someone who hasn't actually said anything wrong.
If I interpret someone's stance wrong, I always apologize, so long as they're mindful not to become openly hostile over a misinterpretation.
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Everything you have said suggests that you have no idea how to be snarky without making it a personal attack on the opposition, amirite?
Seriously, do you know what you accused me of just now? You accused me of condoning the building of dicks and racial supremacy symbols on strangers' servers. And then you accused me of reading too far into what other people say. What the hell?
Edit: Hmm. There could be a debate topic here. I'm not saying we should move there, but after this, we could start one on whether pornography is sexist.
Take in to account that it's against US law (Actually haven't exactly checked this one, so plz to be forgiving me if I'm wrong) for a person under 13 to play a game or contribute to a forum with open, unrestricted chat. That's why you have to be 13 to get in to a forum and why a lot of sites like neopets or webkinz (I have a sister) restrict chat or only allow chat for those over 13.
And, 13-year-olds have been to middle school shower rooms. They have heard much worse.
Now, before someone explodes on me, I'm going to reiterate: Don't build dicks and swastikas on servers, it's wrong and gross and why would you do that oh my god.
Durr. I lose.