Lol, this is awesome, I love seeing these huge naval projects from eras I'm interested in. I applaud you for dedication and wish you the best. Meanwhile, my lazy ass still hasn't gotten around to finishing the USS Tennessee I started on August 14th xD
Thanks.
I can be lazy too, but I've got so far into this project now I'm determined not to let it die. I'm a bit disappointed I've been busy the last couple of weeks and haven't been able to build any new ships; the minecraft time I've had I've been putting up some downloads that other people requested of my cathedral build and stained glass resource pack
Now that I've done that, I'll be back at the shipbuilding. I think I'll do some Royal Navy flotilla leaders and destroyers, partly because they'll be quick to do, but also because there's quite a few of them that still need doing.
You should use it, it really helps to get your projects out there. I know that PMC would absolutely gobble this project up.
I keep meaning to! I'll probably put this up on there when I'm finished. In the meantime, I might try putting some other stuff on there.
[quote=lonely101;/members/lonely101;/forums/minecraft-discussion/creative-mode/2236653-project-jutland-1916?comment=56]That was amazing! Well done. Thanks.
A small update today, first ship I've built in the last couple of weeks. Been busy, unfortunately.
I realised that I was getting a bit behind on destroyers and such, so I've built the Royal Navy's Marksman class Flotilla Leader. The Flotilla Leaders were basically oversized destroyers with extra facilities to accommodate the flotilla command staff. Three Marksman class ships were at Jutland, Marksman, Kempenfelt and Abdiel. Marksman and Kempenfelt served in their intended role, while Abdiel had been converted to a destroyer-minelayer and was under Jellicoe's direct command. All three survived the battle.
I was planning to do the Acheron class destroyers next, but looking into it a bit more it looks like I'll have to do several slightly different versions. They were more of a rough grouping than a specific class - some were a bit longer than others, some had different numbers of boilers and shafts than others and so on. I think I'll have to do about 4 different variations!
The Acheron class destroyer is done. And notably, with these finished I've just hit 130 out of 249 ships. That's over halfway! There were a whole lot of slightly different versions, so I've got 4 separate screenshots. Ultimately, they look very similar because the differences are slight differences in length, and some have 2 screws while some have 3.
The most obvious difference is the white colour scheme for HMS Oak; she was painted in this way because she was the tender to the fleet flagship. Probably her most notable exploit was at the surrender of the German High Seas Fleet in 1918 where she carried the German Rear Admiral Hugo Meurer from SMS Königsberg to surrender to Admiral Beatty aboard HMS Queen Elizabeth.
I picked out some of the more interesting ships for the names in the screenshots. Defender is notable for taking a 12” shell to the boiler room, which failed to explode but still caused considerable damage. Despite this, she managed to take the damaged HMS Onslow under tow and at reduced speed towed her back to Aberdeen. Badger had the unfortunate task of rescuing survivors of the destroyed battlecruiser Invincible.
I think next I'm going to do another capital ship. I've been saying for a while that my next capital ship will be SMS Moltke, but I've been hit by a sudden desire to do the (rather unusual) British battleship HMS Agincourt. I'll explain the whole tale of why she's unusual when I'm posting up screenshots!
HMS Oak is actually the first one I dislike. Don't get confused cat, still 129 out of 130!
Yes, she does look a bit weird in the all-white paint. At first I took all the screenshots in the same grey before I read about her paint scheme. I don't know why they decided to go with white for the 'tender to the flagship' but somebody must have liked it!
As for why she had the job, she was a Yarrow special, which were fitted with more powerful engines so she could make ~32 knots, and was also exceptionally reliable. I guess that made her an ideal candidate.
Another build done, the Gin Palace herself, HMS Agincourt. In short, one of the most bonkers battleships ever built. She was ordered from a British shipyard by Brazil who wanted an especially impressive design. Even though the main armament was 'only' 12" calibre, they demanded no less than 7 twin turrets, which was and still is the largest number of main battery turrets ever fitted to a battleship.
In economic trouble, Brazil sold the ship to the Ottoman Empire while she was still under construction. At the start of the First World War, the ship was just about finished and undergoing sea trials. An Ottoman crew had arrived in Britain to take delivery and sail her home - but when war broke out the British Admiralty decided to seize the ship for use by the Royal Navy. They viewed the Ottomans as a hostile nation who were probably going to ally with Germany, and didn't want to hand over the two battleships that were being built for them. Winston Churchill was the First Lord of the Admiralty at the time, and he ordered that the Ottoman crews should be resisted with force if necessary if they tried to take the ships.
She underwent quick modifications for British service, including most amusingly replacing the Turkish-style lavatories with British ones, and received a new name. She had been laid down as Rio de Janeiro, renamed Sultan Osman-ı Evvel by the Ottomans, and eventually HMS Agincourt by the Royal Navy.
At Jutland she was part of the 6th Division, which got quite close the the Germans in the area that became known as 'Windy Corner' because of the spray from shell splashes being blown across the ships. Despite the huge number of shells that hit the sea around her, Agincourt wasn't hit. Neither did she score any confirmed hits herself.
The rumour had gone around that she was so heavily armed that attempting to fire a full broadside would cause her to break in half. She disproved this at Jutland. Each full broadside was an incredible sight, with the entire ship seemingly obscured in a sheet of flame. Rather than breaking in half, she just suffered a few sheared rivets and smashed glassware.
After the war, Britain tried to sell the ship back to Brazil, but the Brazilians weren't interested. She was scrapped under the terms of the Washington Naval Treaty.
She's been a very interesting build. It was such a tight squeeze getting the turrets in that I had to (slightly) tweak a few dimensions of the superstructure just so the guns weren't butting directly up against it. Good fun!
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Those posts are way too long and I admit I did not even read half.
But I love the ships. Keep up the good work
I figure the long posts are there for those who want to read them, easy to skip if you don't. I just get carried away with the history of all of this, and think it's utterly fascinating.
97% of teenagers would cry if they saw Justin Bieber on top of a tower about to jump. If your the 3% who is sitting there with popcorn screaming "DO A BACKFLIP", copy and paste this as your signature.
Hah tell me about it. It's easy to write ten or fifteen rows of text about your build, if you're fascinated enough.
I think it's a common affliction among us fantasy writers! I need to drop by your thread more often; I love the fact that your build ties in with your writing. I think it's a great way of getting your ideas 'in the flesh', and I suppose of exposing people to aspects of your setting and seeing what they think. I don't think I could do it myself - I probably couldn't do justice to what's in my imagination. And I've got too many projects on the go anyway - trying to write in two separate fantasy settings, work on this project and write music for a completely unrelated real life project... Oh, and going to work. That too.
Take a look at my ship, then compare it to yours. It's dwarfed, and Waaay outdone.
Your ship may not be big, but she looks good to me. Looks like you've got a pretty good understanding of ship design there, well thought out and well executed. This is the point where I encourage you to build more ships, because I think you could come up with some really cool stuff.
97% of teenagers would cry if they saw Justin Bieber on top of a tower about to jump. If your the 3% who is sitting there with popcorn screaming "DO A BACKFLIP", copy and paste this as your signature.
Why, thank you. Where did you get your skills from?
It's just a combination of historical knowledge and meticulous planning. You can see my method in that tutorial thread I posted. These wouldn't look half as good as they do if I wasn't working off line drawings and photos!
I've done the ships which started the battle off. Both sides were steaming towards each other but hadn't located one another. There was a neutral Danish steamer named NJ Fjord in between the two fleets. Beatty ordered the light cruisers Galatea and Phaeton to investigate the steamer, while Hipper sent the destroyers B109 and B110.
The British cruisers and German destroyers soon discovered each other, both sides trying to carry out the same mission. The cruisers opened fire, the destroyers retreated towards the cover of their own cruisers. Both sides signalled that the enemy had been sighted, and the Battle of Jutland had begun.
I've typed up her role in the battle in the first post, like usual. As one of the battlecruisers she was heavily involved, both causing and taking a considerable amount of damage. She duelled with HMS Tiger, knocking out two gun turrets, and was engaged by the Queen Elizabeth class ships, who landed a hit on her that pierced a coal bunker and caused a minor ammunition explosion. Despite this damage she was in a better condition than the other German battlecruisers later in the battle, and so she became Hipper's flagship after he transferred from the badly damaged Lützow.
I've only got two battlecruisers left for the entire battle now - Seydlitz and Tiger. I think I'll do them both somewhat near the end - I'm still planning that Tiger will be the last build. Next up I'm going to go for the light cruiser Rostock.
I've typed up her role in the battle in the first post, like usual. As one of the battlecruisers she was heavily involved, both causing and taking a considerable amount of damage. She duelled with HMS Tiger, knocking out two gun turrets, and was engaged by the Queen Elizabeth class ships, who landed a hit on her that pierced a coal bunker and caused a minor ammunition explosion. Despite this damage she was in a better condition than the other German battlecruisers later in the battle, and so she became Hipper's flagship after he transferred from the badly damaged Lützow.
I've only got two battlecruisers left for the entire battle now - Seydlitz and Tiger. I think I'll do them both somewhat near the end - I'm still planning that Tiger will be the last build. Next up I'm going to go for the light cruiser Rostock.
Thanks.
I can be lazy too, but I've got so far into this project now I'm determined not to let it die. I'm a bit disappointed I've been busy the last couple of weeks and haven't been able to build any new ships; the minecraft time I've had I've been putting up some downloads that other people requested of my cathedral build and stained glass resource pack
Now that I've done that, I'll be back at the shipbuilding. I think I'll do some Royal Navy flotilla leaders and destroyers, partly because they'll be quick to do, but also because there's quite a few of them that still need doing.
I set one up a couple of years ago, but I've never used it. I keep meaning to put things up there, but I've never got around to it.
I keep meaning to! I'll probably put this up on there when I'm finished. In the meantime, I might try putting some other stuff on there.
[quote=lonely101;/members/lonely101;/forums/minecraft-discussion/creative-mode/2236653-project-jutland-1916?comment=56]That was amazing! Well done. Thanks.
A small update today, first ship I've built in the last couple of weeks. Been busy, unfortunately.
I realised that I was getting a bit behind on destroyers and such, so I've built the Royal Navy's Marksman class Flotilla Leader. The Flotilla Leaders were basically oversized destroyers with extra facilities to accommodate the flotilla command staff. Three Marksman class ships were at Jutland, Marksman, Kempenfelt and Abdiel. Marksman and Kempenfelt served in their intended role, while Abdiel had been converted to a destroyer-minelayer and was under Jellicoe's direct command. All three survived the battle.
I was planning to do the Acheron class destroyers next, but looking into it a bit more it looks like I'll have to do several slightly different versions. They were more of a rough grouping than a specific class - some were a bit longer than others, some had different numbers of boilers and shafts than others and so on. I think I'll have to do about 4 different variations!
The most obvious difference is the white colour scheme for HMS Oak; she was painted in this way because she was the tender to the fleet flagship. Probably her most notable exploit was at the surrender of the German High Seas Fleet in 1918 where she carried the German Rear Admiral Hugo Meurer from SMS Königsberg to surrender to Admiral Beatty aboard HMS Queen Elizabeth.
I picked out some of the more interesting ships for the names in the screenshots. Defender is notable for taking a 12” shell to the boiler room, which failed to explode but still caused considerable damage. Despite this, she managed to take the damaged HMS Onslow under tow and at reduced speed towed her back to Aberdeen. Badger had the unfortunate task of rescuing survivors of the destroyed battlecruiser Invincible.
I think next I'm going to do another capital ship. I've been saying for a while that my next capital ship will be SMS Moltke, but I've been hit by a sudden desire to do the (rather unusual) British battleship HMS Agincourt. I'll explain the whole tale of why she's unusual when I'm posting up screenshots!
Yes, she does look a bit weird in the all-white paint. At first I took all the screenshots in the same grey before I read about her paint scheme. I don't know why they decided to go with white for the 'tender to the flagship' but somebody must have liked it!
As for why she had the job, she was a Yarrow special, which were fitted with more powerful engines so she could make ~32 knots, and was also exceptionally reliable. I guess that made her an ideal candidate.
In economic trouble, Brazil sold the ship to the Ottoman Empire while she was still under construction. At the start of the First World War, the ship was just about finished and undergoing sea trials. An Ottoman crew had arrived in Britain to take delivery and sail her home - but when war broke out the British Admiralty decided to seize the ship for use by the Royal Navy. They viewed the Ottomans as a hostile nation who were probably going to ally with Germany, and didn't want to hand over the two battleships that were being built for them. Winston Churchill was the First Lord of the Admiralty at the time, and he ordered that the Ottoman crews should be resisted with force if necessary if they tried to take the ships.
She underwent quick modifications for British service, including most amusingly replacing the Turkish-style lavatories with British ones, and received a new name. She had been laid down as Rio de Janeiro, renamed Sultan Osman-ı Evvel by the Ottomans, and eventually HMS Agincourt by the Royal Navy.
At Jutland she was part of the 6th Division, which got quite close the the Germans in the area that became known as 'Windy Corner' because of the spray from shell splashes being blown across the ships. Despite the huge number of shells that hit the sea around her, Agincourt wasn't hit. Neither did she score any confirmed hits herself.
The rumour had gone around that she was so heavily armed that attempting to fire a full broadside would cause her to break in half. She disproved this at Jutland. Each full broadside was an incredible sight, with the entire ship seemingly obscured in a sheet of flame. Rather than breaking in half, she just suffered a few sheared rivets and smashed glassware.
After the war, Britain tried to sell the ship back to Brazil, but the Brazilians weren't interested. She was scrapped under the terms of the Washington Naval Treaty.
She's been a very interesting build. It was such a tight squeeze getting the turrets in that I had to (slightly) tweak a few dimensions of the superstructure just so the guns weren't butting directly up against it. Good fun!
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My supports:
But I love the ships. Keep up the good work
I'm going to once I'm finished. 20-odd ship classes still to build!
I figure the long posts are there for those who want to read them, easy to skip if you don't. I just get carried away with the history of all of this, and think it's utterly fascinating.
And thanks both.
Visit my son's youtube channel! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxIyXNPdd5p1n3rkXdCiMg
If you'd like something to read, click here.
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97% of teenagers would cry if they saw Justin Bieber on top of a tower about to jump. If your the 3% who is sitting there with popcorn screaming "DO A BACKFLIP", copy and paste this as your signature.
My supports:
I think it's a common affliction among us fantasy writers! I need to drop by your thread more often; I love the fact that your build ties in with your writing. I think it's a great way of getting your ideas 'in the flesh', and I suppose of exposing people to aspects of your setting and seeing what they think. I don't think I could do it myself - I probably couldn't do justice to what's in my imagination. And I've got too many projects on the go anyway - trying to write in two separate fantasy settings, work on this project and write music for a completely unrelated real life project... Oh, and going to work. That too.
Your ship may not be big, but she looks good to me. Looks like you've got a pretty good understanding of ship design there, well thought out and well executed. This is the point where I encourage you to build more ships, because I think you could come up with some really cool stuff.
(I'll pay him $20 an hour)
Visit my son's youtube channel! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxIyXNPdd5p1n3rkXdCiMg
If you'd like something to read, click here.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/show-your-creation/fan-art/literature/2284275-mayday
97% of teenagers would cry if they saw Justin Bieber on top of a tower about to jump. If your the 3% who is sitting there with popcorn screaming "DO A BACKFLIP", copy and paste this as your signature.
My supports:
It's just a combination of historical knowledge and meticulous planning. You can see my method in that tutorial thread I posted. These wouldn't look half as good as they do if I wasn't working off line drawings and photos!
I've done the ships which started the battle off. Both sides were steaming towards each other but hadn't located one another. There was a neutral Danish steamer named NJ Fjord in between the two fleets. Beatty ordered the light cruisers Galatea and Phaeton to investigate the steamer, while Hipper sent the destroyers B109 and B110.
The British cruisers and German destroyers soon discovered each other, both sides trying to carry out the same mission. The cruisers opened fire, the destroyers retreated towards the cover of their own cruisers. Both sides signalled that the enemy had been sighted, and the Battle of Jutland had begun.
I've typed up her role in the battle in the first post, like usual. As one of the battlecruisers she was heavily involved, both causing and taking a considerable amount of damage. She duelled with HMS Tiger, knocking out two gun turrets, and was engaged by the Queen Elizabeth class ships, who landed a hit on her that pierced a coal bunker and caused a minor ammunition explosion. Despite this damage she was in a better condition than the other German battlecruisers later in the battle, and so she became Hipper's flagship after he transferred from the badly damaged Lützow.
I've only got two battlecruisers left for the entire battle now - Seydlitz and Tiger. I think I'll do them both somewhat near the end - I'm still planning that Tiger will be the last build. Next up I'm going to go for the light cruiser Rostock.
Gee, these things are still coming out? Nice job!
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