The unlimited water thing (dump water in the left and right squares in a 1x3 trench, and draw from the middle for unlimited water) is a handy little device, that makes things pretty easy when you need H20.
But for the life of me, I can't figure Lava Collection out. Which is a shame, because if I could figure out unlimited lava, I'd use that for an efficient heating element and save my coal for torches.
Maybe you guys can help me out here by illuminating what's going on with a few of my stumpers...
1.) I get to a lava lake. I collect the lava -- sometimes it removes a chunk (and refills), sometimes it does. But here's the weird thing.... I can recollect in the same area 2-3 times SOMETIMES. Then it always goes cold (pardon the pun) in the fact the "collect" command is not available.
2.) For some reason I can't collect lava in the nether. I come to a huge lake, and unlike above, I can't even fill ONE bucket. No option at all.
3.) I come upon a little lavafall in an underground (natural) corridor. I ready a bucket, but I can't collect ANY of it for some reason. In these events with water, I can always collect at the flowpoint where the water is coming out (which kills the stream), but it won't even let me do that.
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1.) The reason you can collect multiple times from one spot is due to there being lava source blocks 1-2 spots below it. It confused me a few times, as well.
2.) Never tried to collect lava in the nether since most mobs are immune to it in the nether.
3.) I have no problems collecting the flowpoint source lava. Maybe you're not at the source... or perhaps your already collected it or placed a block on it, and the lava you're trying to get is the residual effect that sometimes takes forever to disappear?
I've never had any issues collecting lava in the nether. Strange.
PurpleMushroomz above is correct. You can only collect lava source blocks (still lava, not flowing). The flowing lava can take forever to disappear after collecting the source when it's just one block.
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I understand the frustration. I started building a new house because some idiot decided to build poorly lit floating houses above my fenced in area... and trees (which mobs are spawning on) which hang over my fences. I'm making 3 block wide walls and floors with an obsidian layer on my new house. I don't have much diamond as of yet, so I'm molding obsidian using lava source blocks and water.
Needless to say, not very happy trekking across the map to keep getting more lava... even with 11 buckets.
I understand the frustration. I started building a new house because some idiot decided to build poorly lit floating houses above my fenced in area... and trees (which mobs are spawning on) which hang over my fences. I'm making 3 block wide walls and floors with an obsidian layer on my new house. I don't have much diamond as of yet, so I'm molding obsidian using lava source blocks and water.
Needless to say, not very happy trekking across the map to keep getting more lava... even with 11 buckets.
this is where an ender chest would come in handy, i can't wait until we get them.
Ill do the lava source block above some ladders thing. And have like a collection, kinda like a totem pole. It's decorative and functional!
But endless lava source would be awesome!
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1.) The reason you can collect multiple times from one spot is due to there being lava source blocks 1-2 spots below it. It confused me a few times, as well.
2.) Never tried to collect lava in the nether since most mobs are immune to it in the nether.
3.) I have no problems collecting the flowpoint source lava. Maybe you're not at the source... or perhaps your already collected it or placed a block on it, and the lava you're trying to get is the residual effect that sometimes takes forever to disappear?
This.
Lava takes a very, very long time to disappear. Also, you can tell which is a source block by whether it is flowing or not. If it is not flowing its a source block.
Also, you can tell which is a source block by whether it is flowing or not. If it is not flowing its a source block.
The source block closest to the non source blocks will have the "flowing" animation. I fell trick to this numerous times while trying to fill blocks in to make an obsidian wall. I constantly had dumped a new bucket of lava, then counted how many buckets I had already dumped only to find out I dumped two sources into one block.
I understand the frustration. I started building a new house because some idiot decided to build poorly lit floating houses above my fenced in area... and trees (which mobs are spawning on) which hang over my fences. I'm making 3 block wide walls and floors with an obsidian layer on my new house. I don't have much diamond as of yet, so I'm molding obsidian using lava source blocks and water.
Needless to say, not very happy trekking across the map to keep getting more lava... even with 11 buckets.
Do a search for "redstone obsidian glitch". You can convert redstone into obsidian and save your lava source blocks.
So, lava is ultimately a limited resource. Eventually you could reach a point where you can gather no more lava in your world...?
Yes, but there's so much of it, I honestly doubt anyone would ever run out. You can get a better feel for how many lava source blocks are left beneath the top layer of a lake, by dumping water on one that appears to be not allowing you to collect any more lava. The water will turn that top layer to cobblestone, which you can then mine to see whatever lava sources are still underneath that top layer. You can do this process ofr each layer of the lake (some of them are up to six layers deep).
If you're looking for obsidian, rather than lava, I find it best to mine the obsidian in place with a water layer on top of it. This prevents you from losing any of the obsidian in the lava layer beneath it since the water instantly turns that layer also into obsidian right as the block above it pops.
I don't really got through buckets and buckets of lava so I guess lava-scarcity isn't an issue with me, but what I do when I run low on lava for my furnace is go find a lava pool (which isn't hard since I dig diamond mineshafts all over my map) and take all the buckets I can carry with me. Then, I fill it up and take it back to my storage area.
Wasn't really a problem back when the infinite item glitch was still working...oops
Also, PurpleMushroomz is right about only being able to collect source blocks. Source blocks can be hiding next to or beneath flowing lava, so it can trick you at times. As for the nether lava--I have no clue, sorry.
But for the life of me, I can't figure Lava Collection out. Which is a shame, because if I could figure out unlimited lava, I'd use that for an efficient heating element and save my coal for torches.
Maybe you guys can help me out here by illuminating what's going on with a few of my stumpers...
1.) I get to a lava lake. I collect the lava -- sometimes it removes a chunk (and refills), sometimes it does. But here's the weird thing.... I can recollect in the same area 2-3 times SOMETIMES. Then it always goes cold (pardon the pun) in the fact the "collect" command is not available.
2.) For some reason I can't collect lava in the nether. I come to a huge lake, and unlike above, I can't even fill ONE bucket. No option at all.
3.) I come upon a little lavafall in an underground (natural) corridor. I ready a bucket, but I can't collect ANY of it for some reason. In these events with water, I can always collect at the flowpoint where the water is coming out (which kills the stream), but it won't even let me do that.
Thanks for your help!
2.) Never tried to collect lava in the nether since most mobs are immune to it in the nether.
3.) I have no problems collecting the flowpoint source lava. Maybe you're not at the source... or perhaps your already collected it or placed a block on it, and the lava you're trying to get is the residual effect that sometimes takes forever to disappear?
PurpleMushroomz above is correct. You can only collect lava source blocks (still lava, not flowing). The flowing lava can take forever to disappear after collecting the source when it's just one block.
I think this one line answers about all the questions for me. Makes sense.
Needless to say, not very happy trekking across the map to keep getting more lava... even with 11 buckets.
this is where an ender chest would come in handy, i can't wait until we get them.
But endless lava source would be awesome!
This.
Lava takes a very, very long time to disappear. Also, you can tell which is a source block by whether it is flowing or not. If it is not flowing its a source block.
The source block closest to the non source blocks will have the "flowing" animation. I fell trick to this numerous times while trying to fill blocks in to make an obsidian wall. I constantly had dumped a new bucket of lava, then counted how many buckets I had already dumped only to find out I dumped two sources into one block.
Do a search for "redstone obsidian glitch". You can convert redstone into obsidian and save your lava source blocks.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Obsidian_Farming#Redstone-To-Obsidian_Glitch_.28.22Infiniobsidian.22.29
Yes, but there's so much of it, I honestly doubt anyone would ever run out. You can get a better feel for how many lava source blocks are left beneath the top layer of a lake, by dumping water on one that appears to be not allowing you to collect any more lava. The water will turn that top layer to cobblestone, which you can then mine to see whatever lava sources are still underneath that top layer. You can do this process ofr each layer of the lake (some of them are up to six layers deep).
If you're looking for obsidian, rather than lava, I find it best to mine the obsidian in place with a water layer on top of it. This prevents you from losing any of the obsidian in the lava layer beneath it since the water instantly turns that layer also into obsidian right as the block above it pops.
Wasn't really a problem back when the infinite item glitch was still working...oops
Also, PurpleMushroomz is right about only being able to collect source blocks. Source blocks can be hiding next to or beneath flowing lava, so it can trick you at times. As for the nether lava--I have no clue, sorry.