alot of people say that it would be to hard to convert USA to metric, but i laugh at how the system now is rather random and not very logical.
And as for getting 1km achev. Im going with starting with 17 boosters (1 red stone torch in the middle lights them all up) then after 15 normal track, i place a detector, booster, detector so you don't need red-stone torches or levers.
im going with this plan
1. Start with 1 booster with red-stone torch next to it and place 8 more boosters in both directions of it
2. Head in 1 direction 14 regular tracks
3. put down.. Detector, Booster, Detector
4. Repeat stem 2-3 until needed
I don't like the old glitch way of building minecarts, yes it is much faster, but its called glitch for a reason, and i don't want to build a station that is entirely dependent on a glitch that might be fixed anytime, just to redo it with the 1.5 boosters
Wouldn't placing 17 powered rails in series be a waste? I thought what they did was reset your momentum to a given amount, so spacing them out (by 32 blocks to be most efficient) will give you the max speed for your rails.
alot of people say that it would be to hard to convert USA to metric, but i laugh at how the system now is rather random and not very logical.
And as for getting 1km achev. Im going with starting with 17 boosters (1 red stone torch in the middle lights them all up) then after 15 normal track, i place a detector, booster, detector so you don't need red-stone torches or levers.
im going with this plan
1. Start with 1 booster with red-stone torch next to it and place 8 more boosters in both directions of it
2. Head in 1 direction 14 regular tracks
3. put down.. Detector, Booster, Detector
4. Repeat stem 2-3 until needed
I don't like the old glitch way of building minecarts, yes it is much faster, but its called glitch for a reason, and i don't want to build a station that is entirely dependent on a glitch that might be fixed anytime, just to redo it with the 1.5 boosters
But the boosters we have now are lesbian and just all around useless -.-
I hate this quote limit. The forums should get rid of it like any other normal forum does.
Anyways, nevermind. I just figured out how to use them. They are not THAT useless... But still, it wont hurt if Notch makes Gold veins more commun.
With standard branch mining techniques you get accrue a good amount of gold, and each booster costs exactly 1 gold ingot. From the wiki:
The optimal spacing of powered rails is to use 1 every 26 blocks (that is, 1 powered rail followed by 25 normal rails, repeated) which maintains a constant minecart speed of 8m/s.[2] Using 1 every 30 distance results in a negligible 2.6% speed decrease (an increase in travel time by factor of ~0.027 or a speed of 7.8 m/s) if you wish to save on gold ingots. Using 1 powered rail every 32 blocks results in a 10% drop in speed (an increase in travel time by a factor of 1/9 or a speed of 7.2m/s).
So even if you find 1 vein of gold (let's say 4 ingots), that's as many as 120 meters of self-powered railway with negligible speed loss. Starting on a small incline will increase this distance as well.
I thought they were teaching the basics of metric system at school, as it includes most of SI units, and is used by 98% of the world or so.
The 'murkans dun care wut the rest of the world uses. They's the greatest nation on Earth an' they dun need to know no kilometers.
I'm American and I know my metric. (Well enough at least). Don't be a bigot and blame us for being born into a country that hasn't advanced onto Metric. We aren't all idiots.
Back to the thread, 1000 blocks. 1 block = 1 meter.
Who cares if the United States doesn't use metrics? I guess sooner or later everybody with their "stupid American" jokes will turn out to be right and the stupid Americans will just go live in poor ignorance.
Oh wait.
We don't live in poor ignorance.
The United States economy is nearly 3 times as large as the second largest economy. It takes all of Europe combined to compare.
In addition the customary units system was created by Europeans as pioneered by the imperial units system.
what exactly does economy have to do with using ancient measures?
I was referring to the fact that many in this thread give off the impression that because we use a different system than they do that we are backwards and ignorant. Being the world's only superpower contradicts that.
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But you are very proud of your democracy, are you not?
I guess we prefer it over a dictatorship, yes
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So whose fault is it really that in this respect the US is still stuck in the 19th century, hm?
Surprisingly the conversion from customary to metric is not the most urgent issue in America right now.
I'm American and I know my metric. (Well enough at least). Don't be a bigot and blame us for being born into a country that hasn't advanced onto Metric. We aren't all idiots.
But you are very proud of your democracy, are you not? You elect your leaders and thereby their policies, do you not? So whose fault is it really that in this respect the US is still stuck in the 19th century, hm?
...I'm 17 years old. I can't even vote. You'll be damn sure I'll be putting some effort toward convincing people to bring metric. But, seriously, a lot of us are losing faith in our democracy. Yes we elect our leaders, but they all lie about their policies for the election.
Metric is obviously scientifically superior. The problem with Metric is, most people aren't scientists. They don't care about how Metric easily breaks down into Significant Figures, they just care roughly how far it is to the next gas station. "About 5 miles" is perfectly fine.
Imperial: Water freezes at 32* and boils at 212*
Metric: Water freezes at 0* and boils at 100*
(@STP and all that junk).
But nobody cares. Because when people are talking temperature, they don't care about the phase changes of water. They care about whether they're going to need their coat tomorrow when they're going to work. This is Metric's weakness and Imperial's strength. What it lacks in dexterity it makes up for in convenience. 0*F is F**king cold, and 100*F is f**king hot. It perfectly encompasses the majority of all temperatures that 90% of human beings are concerned about. And if we're really concerned about scientific accuracy, Kelvin > Celsius anyway.
Solution: You should be skilled at BOTH depending on the situation required.
Metric is obviously scientifically superior. The problem with Metric is, most people aren't scientists. They don't care about how Metric easily breaks down into Significant Figures, they just care roughly how far it is to the next gas station. "About 5 miles" is perfectly fine.
Imperial: Water freezes at 32* and boils at 212*
Metric: Water freezes at 0* and boils at 100*
(@STP and all that junk).
But nobody cares. Because when people are talking temperature, they don't care about the phase changes of water. They care about whether they're going to need their coat tomorrow when they're going to work. This is Metric's weakness and Imperial's strength. What it lacks in dexterity it makes up for in convenience. 0*F is F**king cold, and 100*F is f**king hot. It perfectly encompasses the majority of all temperatures that 90% of human beings are concerned about. And if we're really concerned about scientific accuracy, Kelvin > Celsius anyway.
Solution: You should be skilled at BOTH depending on the situation required.
You say Imperial's strength is in social applications, and then go on to explain the metric system's advantage in a social application. Please show me why Fahrenheit temperatures are a superior measurement system to that of Celsius or Kelvin.
Metric is obviously scientifically superior. The problem with Metric is, most people aren't scientists. They don't care about how Metric easily breaks down into Significant Figures, they just care roughly how far it is to the next gas station. "About 5 miles" is perfectly fine.
Imperial: Water freezes at 32* and boils at 212*
Metric: Water freezes at 0* and boils at 100*
(@STP and all that junk).
But nobody cares. Because when people are talking temperature, they don't care about the phase changes of water. They care about whether they're going to need their coat tomorrow when they're going to work. This is Metric's weakness and Imperial's strength. What it lacks in dexterity it makes up for in convenience. 0*F is F**king cold, and 100*F is f**king hot. It perfectly encompasses the majority of all temperatures that 90% of human beings are concerned about. And if we're really concerned about scientific accuracy, Kelvin > Celsius anyway.
Seriously? "it has an advantage in social situations"? You only think that because you use it, idiot! Do you think Europeans have a hard time picturing how far 5 kilometers is? Understanding what the thermometer means when it says 25? The imperial system is the most stupid, backward thing EVER! And I'm American! Solution: You should be skilled at BOTH depending on the situation required.
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You say Imperial's strength is in social applications, and then go on to explain the metric system's advantage in a social application. Please show me why Fahrenheit temperatures are a superior measurement system to that of Celsius or Kelvin.
No. Metric is not superior in this situation. Having 0 "Cold" and 100 "Hot" is a very reasonable system. I will grant you that 0 is an acceptable definition of "cold" but then "hot" comes out to the nice round figure of...37? Imperial also breaks down nicely for weather. 60s versus 50s > 15s versus 20s.
Metric is unquestionably a superior measurement system for the fields of math and sciences. I'm not doubting that.
Here's your biggest problem though: If you want people to switch, the burden is on those wanting the change to convince people to switch. And for every day measurements for every day people, Imperial works just fine.
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Seriously? "it has an advantage in social situations"? You only think that because you use it, idiot! Do you think Europeans have a hard time picturing how far 5 kilometers is?
No. But those used to Imperial would. Which makes it not worth it to change.
Though funny you bring up Europeans concept of distance. Just heard a quote: "To an American, 100 years is a long time. To a European, 100 miles is a long way."
I agree that the metric system kicks ass. I hate that in the USA we don't use it.
The government actually tried to change the standard to metric some 20-odd years ago, but they were shot down because the public was too stubborn to admit that any system they weren't already using could be better than theirs.
The government actually tried to change the standard to metric some 20-odd years ago, but they were shot down because the public was too stubborn to admit that any system they weren't already using could be better than theirs.
It's not that it's not better conceptually, it's just not better enough in common practice to bother switching.
You say Imperial's strength is in social applications, and then go on to explain the metric system's advantage in a social application. Please show me why Fahrenheit temperatures are a superior measurement system to that of Celsius or Kelvin.
No. Metric is not superior in this situation. Having 0 "Cold" and 100 "Hot" is a very reasonable system. I will grant you that 0 is an acceptable definition of "cold" but then "hot" comes out to the nice round figure of...37? Imperial also breaks down nicely for weather. 60s versus 50s > 15s versus 20s.
Metric is unquestionably a superior measurement system for the fields of math and sciences. I'm not doubting that.
Here's your biggest problem though: If you want people to switch, the burden is on those wanting the change to convince people to switch. And for every day measurements for every day people, Imperial works just fine.
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Seriously? "it has an advantage in social situations"? You only think that because you use it, idiot! Do you think Europeans have a hard time picturing how far 5 kilometers is?
No. But those used to Imperial would. Which makes it not worth it to change.
Though funny you bring up Europeans concept of distance. Just heard a quote: "To an American, 100 years is a long time. To a European, 100 miles is a long way."
Take this for instance:
Can you tell me how many feet are in a mile without looking it up? I use this a lot outside of the classroom, as I love to backpack.
Take this for instance:
Can you tell me how many feet are in a mile without looking it up? I use this a lot outside of the classroom, as I love to backpack.
First you tell me why I should care how many feet are in a mile? Much more important to me is 1 mile = distance from my house to Costco.
Take this for instance:
Can you tell me how many feet are in a mile without looking it up? I use this a lot outside of the classroom, as I love to backpack.
First you tell me why I should care how many feet are in a mile? Much more important to me is 1 mile = distance from my house to Costco.
I bolded the part of my question you seemed to have missed =)
I bolded the part of my question you seemed to have missed =)
And how is 3960 foot hike a better measurement that 3/4 mile?
FWIW, you got me. I guessed 1800 feet in a mile and, of course, was way off. But IMO it only goes to prove how little a regular sap would care that the number of meters in a kilometer is a nice round number.
Wouldn't placing 17 powered rails in series be a waste? I thought what they did was reset your momentum to a given amount, so spacing them out (by 32 blocks to be most efficient) will give you the max speed for your rails.
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But the boosters we have now are lesbian and just all around useless -.-
What?
I hate this quote limit. The forums should get rid of it like any other normal, decent, and cool forum does.
Anyways, nevermind. I just figured out how to use them. They are not THAT useless... But still, it wont hurt if Notch makes Gold veins more commun.
With standard branch mining techniques you get accrue a good amount of gold, and each booster costs exactly 1 gold ingot. From the wiki:
So even if you find 1 vein of gold (let's say 4 ingots), that's as many as 120 meters of self-powered railway with negligible speed loss. Starting on a small incline will increase this distance as well.
I'm American and I know my metric. (Well enough at least). Don't be a bigot and blame us for being born into a country that hasn't advanced onto Metric. We aren't all idiots.
Back to the thread, 1000 blocks. 1 block = 1 meter.
Oh wait.
We don't live in poor ignorance.
The United States economy is nearly 3 times as large as the second largest economy. It takes all of Europe combined to compare.
In addition the customary units system was created by Europeans as pioneered by the imperial units system.
I was referring to the fact that many in this thread give off the impression that because we use a different system than they do that we are backwards and ignorant. Being the world's only superpower contradicts that.
I guess we prefer it over a dictatorship, yes
Surprisingly the conversion from customary to metric is not the most urgent issue in America right now.
...I'm 17 years old. I can't even vote. You'll be damn sure I'll be putting some effort toward convincing people to bring metric. But, seriously, a lot of us are losing faith in our democracy. Yes we elect our leaders, but they all lie about their policies for the election.
Imperial: Water freezes at 32* and boils at 212*
Metric: Water freezes at 0* and boils at 100*
(@STP and all that junk).
But nobody cares. Because when people are talking temperature, they don't care about the phase changes of water. They care about whether they're going to need their coat tomorrow when they're going to work. This is Metric's weakness and Imperial's strength. What it lacks in dexterity it makes up for in convenience. 0*F is F**king cold, and 100*F is f**king hot. It perfectly encompasses the majority of all temperatures that 90% of human beings are concerned about. And if we're really concerned about scientific accuracy, Kelvin > Celsius anyway.
Solution: You should be skilled at BOTH depending on the situation required.
You say Imperial's strength is in social applications, and then go on to explain the metric system's advantage in a social application. Please show me why Fahrenheit temperatures are a superior measurement system to that of Celsius or Kelvin.
No. Metric is not superior in this situation. Having 0 "Cold" and 100 "Hot" is a very reasonable system. I will grant you that 0 is an acceptable definition of "cold" but then "hot" comes out to the nice round figure of...37? Imperial also breaks down nicely for weather. 60s versus 50s > 15s versus 20s.
Metric is unquestionably a superior measurement system for the fields of math and sciences. I'm not doubting that.
Here's your biggest problem though: If you want people to switch, the burden is on those wanting the change to convince people to switch. And for every day measurements for every day people, Imperial works just fine.
No. But those used to Imperial would. Which makes it not worth it to change.
Though funny you bring up Europeans concept of distance. Just heard a quote: "To an American, 100 years is a long time. To a European, 100 miles is a long way."
The government actually tried to change the standard to metric some 20-odd years ago, but they were shot down because the public was too stubborn to admit that any system they weren't already using could be better than theirs.
It's not that it's not better conceptually, it's just not better enough in common practice to bother switching.
Take this for instance:
Can you tell me how many feet are in a mile without looking it up? I use this a lot outside of the classroom, as I love to backpack.
First you tell me why I should care how many feet are in a mile? Much more important to me is 1 mile = distance from my house to Costco.
I bolded the part of my question you seemed to have missed =)
And how is 3960 foot hike a better measurement that 3/4 mile?
FWIW, you got me. I guessed 1800 feet in a mile and, of course, was way off. But IMO it only goes to prove how little a regular sap would care that the number of meters in a kilometer is a nice round number.