Aside from having the highest damage per second? Yeah, completely pointless. Don't bother with swords guys, just make an axe that will break twice as fast and does slower damage and you win the game, right?
That is what I'm saying, Screw the diamonds, lets make wooden axes!
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There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
That is what I'm saying, Screw the diamonds, lets make wooden axes!
if i remember correctly, axes use 2 durability if used as a weapon, so if you use a wooden axe as your primary weapon, you'd only get about 30 hits or so out if it until you need to make another one
Aside from having the highest damage per second? Yeah, completely pointless. Don't bother with swords guys, just make an axe that will break twice as fast and does slower damage and you win the game, right?
Oh? I didn't know that it will break twice as fast. That's a good way to balance things. I still prefer it though, but I get what you're saying.
if i remember correctly, axes use 2 durability if used as a weapon, so if you use a wooden axe as your primary weapon, you'd only get about 30 hits or so out if it until you need to make another one
Dude, It's wood.
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There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
I dislike it because Minecraft was never about PvP, it was a survival game where you would build and explore. I have never cared about PvP, and it is annoying to me that every time I turn on the game I am surrounded by mobs that take forever to take out.
Guys, I have a solution!! Don't play on 1.9! And if you do, just play on peaceful! If that STILL somehow doesn't fulfill your needs, just ignore playing on PvP servers! If somehow you're that picky and still hate it, don't play minecraft!
I dislike it because Minecraft was never about PvP, it was a survival game where you would build and explore. I have never cared about PvP, and it is annoying to me that every time I turn on the game I am surrounded by mobs that take forever to take out.
Fun fact: Like we've said a million times, its Survival mode, not Build/Explore mode. If you want to Build or Explore, you'll have to still deal with the fact that it was not made with that exact purpose in mind, it is centered around surviving.
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Mining and crafting since 1.2.5, baby. I'm such a pro that---Okay who put my noob test results in my signature?!
Swords are kind of an inconvenience now because even if your are like me and use the axe to fight, you still need them in case you come across a mineshaft and have to cut through spiderwebs to get to the cave spider spawner.
I have performed an experiment with wooden and stone swords and have come to the conclusion that they are no longer worth using.
Below are the results. This experiment tested how long it takes to kill a zombie in 1.9 with a stone and wood sword.
8 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
5 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword.
Lets compare that with how long it takes to do that in 1.8 with spamclicking:
3 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
2 seconds to kill a zombie with a stone sword.
That's quite the difference. I don't see how this is more "challenging", it is just a waste of time and tedious.
Below are the results. This experiment tested how long it takes to kill a zombie in 1.9 with a stone and wood sword.
8 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
5 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword.
This is probably spam clicking in 1.9, but I still find 'no spamming' to be dumb. You can't check your distance between mobs.
That's quite the difference. I don't see how this is more "challenging", it is just a waste of time and tedious.
I do agree with this statement.
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There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
I have performed an experiment with wooden and stone swords and have come to the conclusion that they are no longer worth using.
Below are the results. This experiment tested how long it takes to kill a zombie in 1.9 with a stone and wood sword.
8 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
5 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword.
Lets compare that with how long it takes to do that in 1.8 with spamclicking:
3 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
2 seconds to kill a zombie with a stone sword.
That's quite the difference. I don't see how this is more "challenging", it is just a waste of time and tedious.
You didn't answer to my question; Why are you still replying to this thread, when you already told, that you aren't going to reply to this thread anymore? Why?
Also, can you tell me then, why I am capable of killing zombies faster with both wooden sword and stone sword in 1.9 than you?
Below are the results. This experiment tested how long it takes to kill a zombie in 1.9 with a stone and wood sword.
8 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
5 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword.
It took me 3.80 seconds to kill a Zombie with timed attacks using a wood sword, taking into account the human error of me pressing my stop button too late. There is something very wrong you're doing.
Maybe that's why we don't see any videos of how long it takes to kill a zombie. I could probably take 8 or 10 seconds to kill a zombie fairly easily but that would involve a lot running around and maybe not hitting with every swing. If I focus on the task then I can do it in half that time - probably fairly close to your times. I agree there's something quite wrong with what they're doing
Maybe that's why we don't see any videos of how long it takes to kill a zombie. I could probably take 8 or 10 seconds to kill a zombie fairly easily but that would involve a lot running around and maybe not hitting with every swing. If I focus on the task then I can do it in half that time - probably fairly close to your times. I agree there's something quite wrong with what they're doing
This was just under 4 seconds. Of course, the Zombie was standing still, but it shows if you have decent timing and aim it does not take Zarlog's exaggerated 8 seconds. If it's not exaggerating then there is something very wrong he is doing.
You don't really even need to wait for the entire bar to fill up, just attack after the monster stops turning red.
This was just over 3 seconds. Of course, the Zombie was standing still, but it shows if you have decent timing and aim it does not take Zarlog's exaggerated 8 seconds. If it's not exaggerating then there is something very wrong he is doing.
You don't really even need to wait for the entire bar to fill up, just attack after the monster stops turning red.
Just about four, actually, but that's beside the point. (The fastest possible time would be 3.75 seconds.) For diamond, it should be around two seconds, and Sharpness V diamond about 1.25 to 1.5, nowhere near what Zarlog has been claiming in the past.
Zarlog: if you're so upset over the cooldown, why not just use a Power V bow? It's ranged, kills things in one hit, takes about 1.2 seconds to fully charge, and is exceedingly easy to maintain with Infinity and Mending. It was never nerfed and benefits tremendously from Mending, since it naturally uses up little durability due to its extreme damage. And it can be obtained before you have an enchanting table via fishing or an auto-fisher, so long as you have an anvil and a supply of EXP.
I'm getting tired of all of these repetitive arguments. Say something that hasn't been said so we don't have to repost our previous posts. Thanks Chaps.
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There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
I'm getting tired of all of these repetitive arguments. Say something that hasn't been said so we don't have to repost our previous posts. Thanks Chaps.
As long as the same wrong facts are being presented over and over again (i.e "8 seconds to kill with a wooden sword"), the argument will remain repetitive,
I'm getting tired of all of these repetitive arguments. Say something that hasn't been said so we don't have to repost our previous posts. Thanks Chaps.
Agreed. I have been really questioning why I am still following this thread. If someone doesn't already agree with what the alternate point of view, nothing will ever convince them. That is one thing that is explicitly clear. Hence for that reason, we are all still here talking about the same thing we were talking about months ago in a loop.
And it will continue for as long as people continue participating. Same arguments. Same comebacks. Same outcome. You can't make someone like something they don't want to like; vise versa.
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Let me know if my posts are helpful or if you like them. That's what I'm here for.
I am currently lurking more than I am posting. I haven't gone anywhere.
Agreed. I have been really questioning why I am still following this thread. If someone doesn't already agree with what the alternate point of view, nothing will ever convince them. That is one thing that is explicitly clear. Hence for that reason, we are all still here talking about the same thing we were talking about months ago in a loop.
And it will continue for as long as people continue participating. Same arguments. Same comebacks. Same outcome. You can't make someone like something they don't want to like; vise versa.
Amazing! You guys just found the same problem that was present in at least the two previous complaint threads! I called it out in both, and surprisingly no one listened. I don't think the outcome will change just because this is about 1.9 instead. Inevitably, someone new will show up and respond without having read anything but the OP, and the whole cycle will continue.
Aside from having the highest damage per second? Yeah, completely pointless. Don't bother with swords guys, just make an axe that will break twice as fast and does slower damage and you win the game, right?
That is what I'm saying, Screw the diamonds, lets make wooden axes!
There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
if i remember correctly, axes use 2 durability if used as a weapon, so if you use a wooden axe as your primary weapon, you'd only get about 30 hits or so out if it until you need to make another one
Oh? I didn't know that it will break twice as fast. That's a good way to balance things. I still prefer it though, but I get what you're saying.
So many mods, so little time.
Dude, It's wood.
There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
What about Mineplex-esque servers that can run 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 players?
And also, Microsoft does have to do with it.
I dislike it because Minecraft was never about PvP, it was a survival game where you would build and explore. I have never cared about PvP, and it is annoying to me that every time I turn on the game I am surrounded by mobs that take forever to take out.
Guys, I have a solution!! Don't play on 1.9! And if you do, just play on peaceful! If that STILL somehow doesn't fulfill your needs, just ignore playing on PvP servers! If somehow you're that picky and still hate it, don't play minecraft!
Fun fact: Like we've said a million times, its Survival mode, not Build/Explore mode. If you want to Build or Explore, you'll have to still deal with the fact that it was not made with that exact purpose in mind, it is centered around surviving.
Mining and crafting since 1.2.5, baby. I'm such a pro that---Okay who put my noob test results in my signature?!
Why are you so fascinated with my description?
I have performed an experiment with wooden and stone swords and have come to the conclusion that they are no longer worth using.
Below are the results. This experiment tested how long it takes to kill a zombie in 1.9 with a stone and wood sword.
8 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
5 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword.
Lets compare that with how long it takes to do that in 1.8 with spamclicking:
3 seconds to kill a zombie with a wooden sword
2 seconds to kill a zombie with a stone sword.
That's quite the difference. I don't see how this is more "challenging", it is just a waste of time and tedious.
This is probably spam clicking in 1.9, but I still find 'no spamming' to be dumb. You can't check your distance between mobs.
I do agree with this statement.
There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
You didn't answer to my question; Why are you still replying to this thread, when you already told, that you aren't going to reply to this thread anymore? Why?
Also, can you tell me then, why I am capable of killing zombies faster with both wooden sword and stone sword in 1.9 than you?
Time this from when I first hit the Zombie until it dies and tell me if that's 8 seconds.
It's not.
Sadly that point keeps going over the heads of some of the people in here.
Maybe that's why we don't see any videos of how long it takes to kill a zombie. I could probably take 8 or 10 seconds to kill a zombie fairly easily but that would involve a lot running around and maybe not hitting with every swing. If I focus on the task then I can do it in half that time - probably fairly close to your times. I agree there's something quite wrong with what they're doing
This was just under 4 seconds. Of course, the Zombie was standing still, but it shows if you have decent timing and aim it does not take Zarlog's exaggerated 8 seconds. If it's not exaggerating then there is something very wrong he is doing.
You don't really even need to wait for the entire bar to fill up, just attack after the monster stops turning red.
Just about four, actually, but that's beside the point. (The fastest possible time would be 3.75 seconds.) For diamond, it should be around two seconds, and Sharpness V diamond about 1.25 to 1.5, nowhere near what Zarlog has been claiming in the past.
Zarlog: if you're so upset over the cooldown, why not just use a Power V bow? It's ranged, kills things in one hit, takes about 1.2 seconds to fully charge, and is exceedingly easy to maintain with Infinity and Mending. It was never nerfed and benefits tremendously from Mending, since it naturally uses up little durability due to its extreme damage. And it can be obtained before you have an enchanting table via fishing or an auto-fisher, so long as you have an anvil and a supply of EXP.
I'm getting tired of all of these repetitive arguments. Say something that hasn't been said so we don't have to repost our previous posts. Thanks Chaps.
There is one God. The creator of the heavens and the earth, who sent his son down to earth to save us... he loves you and he's pursuing you. Return to him.
...yeah, I'm one of THOSE guys.
"Some may say that you are a Christian because you were raised in a christian family, but even if my mother was a calculus teacher, no mater what she told me, two plus two would still equal four." - Dr. S. Jenkins
"I'm not a hater, I just know you're wrong. You need to realize that." - Unknown
As long as the same wrong facts are being presented over and over again (i.e "8 seconds to kill with a wooden sword"), the argument will remain repetitive,
Agreed. I have been really questioning why I am still following this thread. If someone doesn't already agree with what the alternate point of view, nothing will ever convince them. That is one thing that is explicitly clear. Hence for that reason, we are all still here talking about the same thing we were talking about months ago in a loop.
And it will continue for as long as people continue participating. Same arguments. Same comebacks. Same outcome. You can't make someone like something they don't want to like; vise versa.
Amazing! You guys just found the same problem that was present in at least the two previous complaint threads! I called it out in both, and surprisingly no one listened. I don't think the outcome will change just because this is about 1.9 instead. Inevitably, someone new will show up and respond without having read anything but the OP, and the whole cycle will continue.
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