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I'm not sure if this has been addressed before but I have a theory. Usually criminals store data such as names, addresses, transaction numbers, bank accounts, and other information either on servers or personal computers WHICH could be confiscated by the government and hacked into. My theory is, what if we were to hide real world confidential information within a video game. Bear with me here, I'm not promoting hiding incriminating data, but what if we can record information that we wouldn't want others to hack into by recording it in the Minecraft books ingame. The data would be stored in the game file, correct? Who would ever look there to find secret information.
If you still don't get it. Basically what I'm suggesting is creating a book in minecraft (the actual book item ingame not books about minecraft), and input your confidential information there. So using my examples with criminals, they can have their client list, bank accounts and all that stuff within the minecraft game file. To even access that information one would have to open up Minecraft, log in, and FIND THE BOOK wherever the person hid it within the massive world. Would the government crack into it? Would they even notice it? Share your thoughts.
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I have wondered about that also! Say you were a police officer inspecting a criminal's computer for confidential information. Would you A: click Minecraft, join a world, and spend hours and hours searching for a chest containing that information, or B: inspect the files of the computer for anything suspicious? The answer is very easy to see. XD
ye, definitely interesting, this game is originally built in seden, but microsoft has bought mojang. microsoft has control of the proprietary code, but it is originally built in sweden.
servers as i see it would be less secure, a criminal would feel safer hiding this information in an sp world. with all the security mods like socialspy, anti cheat/antihack/anti grief mods along with other mods allowing admins or other users to re open signed books, minecraft servers arent a secure place for sensitive information.
if a bust like this was to be made, even in sp would be fairly easy. some hack clients can be custom set to find objects like bookcases, and all the hackclients ever made have the ability to locate and tell the user where the chests are. so essentially the possibility is very real of a goverment being able to find the book(s) fairly easy
They're probably more likely to get the info out of the game/server files directly. Either way, at this point they would likely know that someone was up to no good and they're just fishing for evidence. So basically, they wouldn't need to bother with it.
Along these lines though: Sharing confidential information in this way with your co-conspirators on a private server might be advantageous. Not that I'm suggesting that be done for illegal purposes, of course.
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ye, definitely interesting, this game is originally built in seden, but microsoft has bought mojang. microsoft has control of the proprietary code, but it is originally built in sweden.
servers as i see it would be less secure, a criminal would feel safer hiding this information in an sp world. with all the security mods like socialspy, anti cheat/antihack/anti grief mods along with other mods allowing admins or other users to re open signed books, minecraft servers arent a secure place for sensitive information.
if a bust like this was to be made, even in sp would be fairly easy. some hack clients can be custom set to find objects like bookcases, and all the hackclients ever made have the ability to locate and tell the user where the chests are. so essentially the possibility is very real of a goverment being able to find the book(s) fairly easy
Everything you just said makes sense to me and I agree with you. My theory can be undermined by hack clients. But this is also assuming that intelligence agents would even consider Minecraft a place to store sensitive information. One would have to realize that a criminal hid something within a video game. To even come to such conclusions would be crazy, unless the person was tipped off, or if they are some genius level detective. I guess after realizing that sensitive information could be hidden within Minecraft, finding the books would be a matter of downloading hacked clients and as you said, locating all the books.
They're probably more likely to get the info out of the game/server files directly. Either way, at this point they would likely know that someones was up to no good and they're just fishing for evidence. So basically, they wouldn't need to bother with it.
Along these lines though: Sharing confidential information in this way with your co-conspirators on a private server might be advantageous. Not that I'm suggesting that be done for illegal purposes, of course.
Lol of course we are not suggesting anything illegal *wink* *wink*.
On a more serious note, I just wanna say to everyone that I am talking about Single Player, not MP where its hosted on servers because that would be a security flaw haha.
This is a very interesting theory; unless, of course, the files for books are stored unencrypted in plain text files somewhere within the folders or code of the levels, in which case programs set to detect that kind of stuff would probably be able to find it in short order without opening Minecraft.
Now, if the book files were encrypted and hidden in the region and player files, that would be far more interesting.
I don't actually know how Minecraft stores book files.
Lol of course we are not suggesting anything illegal *wink* *wink*.
On a more serious note, I just wanna say to everyone that I am talking about Single Player, not MP where its hosted on servers because that would be a security flaw haha.
Really, the thought of mobsters, spies, or similar meeting up to play Minecraft kind of cracks me up.
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Really, the thought of mobsters, spies, or similar meeting up to play Minecraft kind of cracks me up.
It is that way of thinking that makes this theory work haha. If people think it is silly for criminals to do this, no one would bother checking Minecraft for criminal information xD
It's a free server hosting website. The only restriction is a maximum of 20 slots, and you have to have at least all but one of the slots filled, or else it shuts down. If you hid a book in a Minecraft world on that server hosting system. nobody would ever find it, because it would be dismissed as entertainment, and no computer scanners would ever find it.
The main issue with these kinds of plans is, most criminals aren't very smart, or don't care to use that intelligence. They're misguided, and usually either incapable or poorly-trained to make money a legal way, and an intelligent criminal would usually prefer to stop doing illegal things and just make an honest living.
Wow, really interesting they could also do it across many games for even more security.. Wow.. Never really thought of this. I bet someone will do it now, just watch XD
No smart criminal would leave the address of a house that they are going to rob ANYWHERE on a computer. The proper way of hiding information like that would be sheets of paper that can be easily burned once not need. Once burned, the police will never know the information contained on that sheet of paper.
Not that i would know this by experience or anything... /Joke
The NSA is going to start tracking me now, aren't they?
No smart criminal would leave the address of a house that they are going to rob ANYWHERE on a computer. The proper way of hiding information like that would be sheets of paper that can be easily burned once not need. Once burned, the police will never know the information contained on that sheet of paper.
Not that i would know this by experience or anything... /Joke
The NSA is going to start tracking me now, aren't they?
I actually came up with this idea a year ago. I store some of my important information in a book hidden on one of my single player worlds. I'm one step ahead of ya.
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The NSA is going to start tracking me now, aren't they?
In all seriousness, they might be to some degree, having flagged you for some reason or another. But, probably not just because of your post. Use Linux, look up info about this kind of stuff, maybe how to use the Tor browser, etc? More of these kinds of things start adding up, the closer they look at you, especially if for some reason they're able to link you up with others that are under closer inspection.
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Eh, don't worry. They do their best to track everybody. All you can do is get Ghostery, start blocking tracking cookies and widgets, try to minimize phone use, vote conservative republican, and use either Mozilla, or the TOR browser.
I'm not sure if this has been addressed before but I have a theory. Usually criminals store data such as names, addresses, transaction numbers, bank accounts, and other information either on servers or personal computers WHICH could be confiscated by the government and hacked into. My theory is, what if we were to hide real world confidential information within a video game. Bear with me here, I'm not promoting hiding incriminating data, but what if we can record information that we wouldn't want others to hack into by recording it in the Minecraft books ingame. The data would be stored in the game file, correct? Who would ever look there to find secret information.
If you still don't get it. Basically what I'm suggesting is creating a book in minecraft (the actual book item ingame not books about minecraft), and input your confidential information there. So using my examples with criminals, they can have their client list, bank accounts and all that stuff within the minecraft game file. To even access that information one would have to open up Minecraft, log in, and FIND THE BOOK wherever the person hid it within the massive world. Would the government crack into it? Would they even notice it? Share your thoughts.
Huh. This is actually a very interesting theory.
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I have wondered about that also! Say you were a police officer inspecting a criminal's computer for confidential information. Would you A: click Minecraft, join a world, and spend hours and hours searching for a chest containing that information, or B: inspect the files of the computer for anything suspicious? The answer is very easy to see. XD
ye, definitely interesting, this game is originally built in seden, but microsoft has bought mojang. microsoft has control of the proprietary code, but it is originally built in sweden.
servers as i see it would be less secure, a criminal would feel safer hiding this information in an sp world. with all the security mods like socialspy, anti cheat/antihack/anti grief mods along with other mods allowing admins or other users to re open signed books, minecraft servers arent a secure place for sensitive information.
if a bust like this was to be made, even in sp would be fairly easy. some hack clients can be custom set to find objects like bookcases, and all the hackclients ever made have the ability to locate and tell the user where the chests are. so essentially the possibility is very real of a goverment being able to find the book(s) fairly easy
They're probably more likely to get the info out of the game/server files directly. Either way, at this point they would likely know that someone was up to no good and they're just fishing for evidence. So basically, they wouldn't need to bother with it.
Along these lines though: Sharing confidential information in this way with your co-conspirators on a private server might be advantageous. Not that I'm suggesting that be done for illegal purposes, of course.
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Everything you just said makes sense to me and I agree with you. My theory can be undermined by hack clients. But this is also assuming that intelligence agents would even consider Minecraft a place to store sensitive information. One would have to realize that a criminal hid something within a video game. To even come to such conclusions would be crazy, unless the person was tipped off, or if they are some genius level detective. I guess after realizing that sensitive information could be hidden within Minecraft, finding the books would be a matter of downloading hacked clients and as you said, locating all the books.
Lol of course we are not suggesting anything illegal *wink* *wink*.
On a more serious note, I just wanna say to everyone that I am talking about Single Player, not MP where its hosted on servers because that would be a security flaw haha.
This is a very interesting theory; unless, of course, the files for books are stored unencrypted in plain text files somewhere within the folders or code of the levels, in which case programs set to detect that kind of stuff would probably be able to find it in short order without opening Minecraft.
Now, if the book files were encrypted and hidden in the region and player files, that would be far more interesting.
I don't actually know how Minecraft stores book files.
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Really, the thought of mobsters, spies, or similar meeting up to play Minecraft kind of cracks me up.
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Exactly, if Minecraft books were stored as plain text files then that would completely obliterate this theory.
It is that way of thinking that makes this theory work haha. If people think it is silly for criminals to do this, no one would bother checking Minecraft for criminal information xD
There's actually a way to go about this.
https://aternos.org/
It's a free server hosting website. The only restriction is a maximum of 20 slots, and you have to have at least all but one of the slots filled, or else it shuts down. If you hid a book in a Minecraft world on that server hosting system. nobody would ever find it, because it would be dismissed as entertainment, and no computer scanners would ever find it.
The main issue with these kinds of plans is, most criminals aren't very smart, or don't care to use that intelligence. They're misguided, and usually either incapable or poorly-trained to make money a legal way, and an intelligent criminal would usually prefer to stop doing illegal things and just make an honest living.
I'm a pixel artist who makes pixel things and maps! I also do line art occasionally.
I have two work in progress resource packs!
This is the second one!
And of course, by "work-in-progress" I mean "will never, ever be completed".
lolno
Wow, really interesting they could also do it across many games for even more security.. Wow.. Never really thought of this. I bet someone will do it now, just watch XD
No smart criminal would leave the address of a house that they are going to rob ANYWHERE on a computer. The proper way of hiding information like that would be sheets of paper that can be easily burned once not need. Once burned, the police will never know the information contained on that sheet of paper.
Not that i would know this by experience or anything... /Joke
The NSA is going to start tracking me now, aren't they?
yep, your a criminal/terrorist now, lel.
*calls CQ to the NSA from his CB radio*
lel, jk
I actually came up with this idea a year ago. I store some of my important information in a book hidden on one of my single player worlds. I'm one step ahead of ya.
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In all seriousness, they might be to some degree, having flagged you for some reason or another. But, probably not just because of your post. Use Linux, look up info about this kind of stuff, maybe how to use the Tor browser, etc? More of these kinds of things start adding up, the closer they look at you, especially if for some reason they're able to link you up with others that are under closer inspection.
OS: Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Debian GNU/Linux 64bit | CPU: Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHz | Motherboard: ASUS P9X79 WS | RAM: Corsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 1600MHz (8×8GB DIMMS) | Graphics: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked @ 1124MHz (×2, SLI) | Power: Corsair AX1200 (1200W, 100.4A @ 12V) | Case: Corsair Obsidian 750D | Cooling: Corsair H110, NOCTUA NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM (×5) | Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SATA III SSD (system drive), Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA III HDD (media, backups), Western Digital My Passport 2TB USB 3.0 External HDD (backups) | Optical: Sony Optiarc Internal 12x Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-03 | Display: Sony Bravia 46" 1920×1080
This computer's BOINC Stats: http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/165430523
Eh, don't worry. They do their best to track everybody. All you can do is get Ghostery, start blocking tracking cookies and widgets, try to minimize phone use, vote conservative republican, and use either Mozilla, or the TOR browser.
I'm a pixel artist who makes pixel things and maps! I also do line art occasionally.
I have two work in progress resource packs!
This is the second one!
And of course, by "work-in-progress" I mean "will never, ever be completed".
OH GOD LOL that was too funny xDD