Hey guys, im creating a new server called CraftyCloud. I have been finding most of my tutorials on YT, and they have been very useful But there's one tutorial that i cannot find.. because i dont know what to search. Okay so, right now only 20 people can connect.. I want there to be atleast 2000 connections. How do i do this/can i do this? If so, please provide a link to a tutorial or tell me -Thanks
You need to increase the maximum RAM allocated to the server. For 2000 people, you will need a LOT of RAM. Are you running the server yourself or are you paying for it through a server hosting company?
Even if you had all 100% of that 4GB of ram you're not going to be able to have 2000 connections.
First off, your internet speed and bandwidth is also in the equation. So I'm sure you don't have server grade internet at your house. If you have a dedicated machine with 4GB of RAM and decent internet, you'd be looking at roughly 15 players without any plugins or mods. (Given your internet can handle that amount of connections.)
Although, there is a catch. Sure you can turn the server on and run it perfectly fine with 30 people let's say. In a few days, weeks, or months, people are going to be more spread out and doing more server intensive things (redstone, mob traps, massive lighting in builds, etc)
The more chunks being loaded, the more land generated, and more things that are built, the more resources the server is going to suck up.
I hope this helps! I'd suggest paying for a host. They will have great internet, diskspace for automatic backups, and you can easily upgrade your server as you move along. Remember though, if you purchase a 4GB server that says "recommended for 40 people", the truth is it's not for 40 people. It'd be fine for 40 people all in one spot working together, but spread out over 10kx10k blocks doing their own thing? No way. Do your research before paying for anything too! Find out if the company is reputable, what type of connection you will be getting, how much diskspace, what type of processing speeds you're looking at, the amount of ram, how many other servers are on your node (if it's shared), and what kind of support/control panel they offer.
Goodluck.
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Thank you so much for the help and yes, that helped me out alot But, i have one more question.. So after reading this i searched google for some server hosting sites and it turns out that i can pay $3 per gb. (www.ggservers.net) So how much gb of ram will i have to get to have 2000? Plus, if this helps here are the gamemodes (because i know that more worlds takes up more space).
Survival Games
Skywars
Factions
Arcade (there will be alot of minigames here)
Yes, that is now starting to sink in So i would pay this per month?!? If i would have to pay atleast $300 a month to host a server like this? Geez, theres no cheaper way then this?
You're looking in the wrong places. Most servers advertised by hosts are shared servers.
Basically they have a machine with great hardware running multiple servers. You would be allowed to use X amount of the resources depending on how much you pay. These are okay for smaller servers. (2-25 in my opinion.) Also, you're restricted on access. Usually you're given a limited control panel, and a restricted access FTP.
If you're really interested in running a huge server like that, you're going to need to rent a dedicated machine.
These can go anywhere from 100$ USD on up.
Basically, you get remote desktop access to another machine that you rent. These typically have insane connections and bandwidths, and a LOT of ram.
To put it in perspective let me throw down some examples from my own experience.
Currently, I run a 3GB RAM shared server through MPSERV. This server runs very smoothly and at peak times will come close to 90% resource usage. Peak time is usually 8-10 players. We're fairly deep into the game. (Roughly 3 months on this map) We've explored about 10k x 10k ish, most people do not live at spawn, and players are free to do as they wish without cheating. This is a Vanilla server. I pay 26$ USD a month for it. If I were to add any more players or allow any more map exploration, I'd be in deep trouble and need upgrades ASAP.
In the past I rented a 150$ USD dedicated machine from Fragnet. This machine had 16GB of ram, unlimited bandwidth with speeds of like 5000GBs.
This machine was capable of running two separate servers. One was Tekkit (popular at the time) with plugins and about 20+ people online at all times.
The other was a heavily developed Bukkit server featuring a Multiverse. The Multiverse included a Towny world, an Anarchy world, and a creative world.
This server had about 15+ players on at all times per world.
The dedicated machine was never close to capping out.
So if a dedicated machine sounds more up your alley, you're not going to find one looking up "Minecraft hosts" as it's not relevant as to what type of server you run on your machine. It's just a machine, you do as you wish with it (as long as you don't break their terms of agreement.) You could theoretically purchase a dedicated machine and run 3 Minecraft servers, a Counterstrike server, and a Starbound server, all at the same time. (Given the machine can handle that stress.)
Also, if you're going this route I'd highly recommend Fragnet. They're a little more expensive, but the quality of their machines are substantially better than other hosts from my experience. Not only that, but they have a great support team that is available 24/7 as they are an international business. I'd never wait more than 15 minutes for a response from them. They also offer full server management if you pay extra and cannot take care of a dedicated machine yourself. (I would definitely learn, because it's about the coolest thing you can do on the internet :D)
Yeah, GG Servers aren't terrible, but they definitely aren't the best.
Unfortunately this is just how things work, and there isn't really a cheaper route other than getting your own machine and your own connection. Which is still pricey. Though, you could potentially make your money back.
I'll tell you what I did to get my start back when I was running big servers.
I found a small server. They were a crappy host and offered a 8 man server for 1$ for the first month. It was like 12$ every month after that. I advertised my server as a 25 man server (Yes I lied, but had great intentions). I accumulated donation money slowly over that first month, and controlled the population so that no one would experience lag. Before the first month was out I had enough money to purchase a better server. I took my first 30$ and upgraded immediately. I then payed for that server monthly until I saw a steady amount of donations. The higher the average amount each month, the more I upgraded. Just remember to not get ahead of yourself. You may get 30$ in donations every month, but then for two months, you only get 10$. Then for three months after that you get 60$ each month. It's best to save money and watch how your donations trend and average out that way you can afford each month without stressing out. Eventually, that's how I achieved a 150$ dedicated machine and could afford the 150$ a month without using my own personal money. It just took a lot of patience, love, and being a little clever.
Also, a side note.
You can typically pay for a server in different intervals.
For example you can pay for
1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 8 months, or a year. This all depends on the host.
Also, typically the more time you pay in advance, the cheaper it will be.
It's like buying Xbox Live for a full year versus a single month.
Although, you may not want to make a commitment like that if you expect to upgrade or change hosts ASAP.
Though, I'd like to let you know Daddycheese(Shard Gaming) doesn't exist anymore.
They actually screwed a lot of people over. I personally had one server through them during that fiasco.
They were bought out by a different company. I lost my money, my time, and all of my data.
They discarded thousands of peoples maps, plugin data, and other important stuff without warning.
Nothing was recoverable. I was lucky enough to get my money refunded by Paypal, but I never did receive anything else.
I'd recommend Fragnet, MPServ, or MCPH (I've heard good things about MCPH as of late, but I used to work for them 2 years ago, and they weren't very nice people. Their servers were meh, and they didn't really know what they were doing. This is why I quit working for them.)
Yes. I am actually going to use Mineocity.
Need a little bit more help.. Sorry So 2 questions. On the site: http://www.mineocityhosting.com/minecraft When its saying $5.00 for 7 slots does it mean 27 slots? Because as you know you get 20 slots to start off with for free. Also, would that be 5 bucks a month? Or just 5 dollars?
Yes it would be laggy as hell if you were to exceed your servers limits.
Don't go off of slots. Number of slots is very inaccurate and misleading.
Like I said my server host says recommended slots 40-52
Though I definitely cannot have more than my 8-10 even without a single mod or plugin.
You need to base things off of amount of RAM, connection, and processing speeds compared to the amount of players you want + amount of plugins/mods.
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Basically, if you are starting a fresh new public server. You cannot simply expect 2000 players to join. <--Unless they are all your friends. Also, you shouldn't open a server and expect donations/purchases comming in so quickly. These take time to develop. So, I suggest if you are opening a public server, you should start off from a small server, then slowly upgrade as your server gets popular
First off, your internet speed and bandwidth is also in the equation. So I'm sure you don't have server grade internet at your house. If you have a dedicated machine with 4GB of RAM and decent internet, you'd be looking at roughly 15 players without any plugins or mods. (Given your internet can handle that amount of connections.)
Although, there is a catch. Sure you can turn the server on and run it perfectly fine with 30 people let's say. In a few days, weeks, or months, people are going to be more spread out and doing more server intensive things (redstone, mob traps, massive lighting in builds, etc)
The more chunks being loaded, the more land generated, and more things that are built, the more resources the server is going to suck up.
I hope this helps! I'd suggest paying for a host. They will have great internet, diskspace for automatic backups, and you can easily upgrade your server as you move along. Remember though, if you purchase a 4GB server that says "recommended for 40 people", the truth is it's not for 40 people. It'd be fine for 40 people all in one spot working together, but spread out over 10kx10k blocks doing their own thing? No way. Do your research before paying for anything too! Find out if the company is reputable, what type of connection you will be getting, how much diskspace, what type of processing speeds you're looking at, the amount of ram, how many other servers are on your node (if it's shared), and what kind of support/control panel they offer.
Goodluck.
Source:
Minecraft Server Operator since 2011.
Experience in other servers as well.
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Survival Games
Skywars
Factions
Arcade (there will be alot of minigames here)
Basically they have a machine with great hardware running multiple servers. You would be allowed to use X amount of the resources depending on how much you pay. These are okay for smaller servers. (2-25 in my opinion.) Also, you're restricted on access. Usually you're given a limited control panel, and a restricted access FTP.
If you're really interested in running a huge server like that, you're going to need to rent a dedicated machine.
These can go anywhere from 100$ USD on up.
Basically, you get remote desktop access to another machine that you rent. These typically have insane connections and bandwidths, and a LOT of ram.
To put it in perspective let me throw down some examples from my own experience.
Currently, I run a 3GB RAM shared server through MPSERV. This server runs very smoothly and at peak times will come close to 90% resource usage. Peak time is usually 8-10 players. We're fairly deep into the game. (Roughly 3 months on this map) We've explored about 10k x 10k ish, most people do not live at spawn, and players are free to do as they wish without cheating. This is a Vanilla server. I pay 26$ USD a month for it. If I were to add any more players or allow any more map exploration, I'd be in deep trouble and need upgrades ASAP.
In the past I rented a 150$ USD dedicated machine from Fragnet. This machine had 16GB of ram, unlimited bandwidth with speeds of like 5000GBs.
This machine was capable of running two separate servers. One was Tekkit (popular at the time) with plugins and about 20+ people online at all times.
The other was a heavily developed Bukkit server featuring a Multiverse. The Multiverse included a Towny world, an Anarchy world, and a creative world.
This server had about 15+ players on at all times per world.
The dedicated machine was never close to capping out.
So if a dedicated machine sounds more up your alley, you're not going to find one looking up "Minecraft hosts" as it's not relevant as to what type of server you run on your machine. It's just a machine, you do as you wish with it (as long as you don't break their terms of agreement.) You could theoretically purchase a dedicated machine and run 3 Minecraft servers, a Counterstrike server, and a Starbound server, all at the same time. (Given the machine can handle that stress.)
Also, if you're going this route I'd highly recommend Fragnet. They're a little more expensive, but the quality of their machines are substantially better than other hosts from my experience. Not only that, but they have a great support team that is available 24/7 as they are an international business. I'd never wait more than 15 minutes for a response from them. They also offer full server management if you pay extra and cannot take care of a dedicated machine yourself. (I would definitely learn, because it's about the coolest thing you can do on the internet :D)
Hope this helps!
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Unfortunately this is just how things work, and there isn't really a cheaper route other than getting your own machine and your own connection. Which is still pricey. Though, you could potentially make your money back.
I'll tell you what I did to get my start back when I was running big servers.
I found a small server. They were a crappy host and offered a 8 man server for 1$ for the first month. It was like 12$ every month after that. I advertised my server as a 25 man server (Yes I lied, but had great intentions). I accumulated donation money slowly over that first month, and controlled the population so that no one would experience lag. Before the first month was out I had enough money to purchase a better server. I took my first 30$ and upgraded immediately. I then payed for that server monthly until I saw a steady amount of donations. The higher the average amount each month, the more I upgraded. Just remember to not get ahead of yourself. You may get 30$ in donations every month, but then for two months, you only get 10$. Then for three months after that you get 60$ each month. It's best to save money and watch how your donations trend and average out that way you can afford each month without stressing out. Eventually, that's how I achieved a 150$ dedicated machine and could afford the 150$ a month without using my own personal money. It just took a lot of patience, love, and being a little clever.
Also, a side note.
You can typically pay for a server in different intervals.
For example you can pay for
1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 8 months, or a year. This all depends on the host.
Also, typically the more time you pay in advance, the cheaper it will be.
It's like buying Xbox Live for a full year versus a single month.
Although, you may not want to make a commitment like that if you expect to upgrade or change hosts ASAP.
Did I help? Click that green button!
Though, I'd like to let you know Daddycheese(Shard Gaming) doesn't exist anymore.
They actually screwed a lot of people over. I personally had one server through them during that fiasco.
They were bought out by a different company. I lost my money, my time, and all of my data.
They discarded thousands of peoples maps, plugin data, and other important stuff without warning.
Nothing was recoverable. I was lucky enough to get my money refunded by Paypal, but I never did receive anything else.
I'd recommend Fragnet, MPServ, or MCPH (I've heard good things about MCPH as of late, but I used to work for them 2 years ago, and they weren't very nice people. Their servers were meh, and they didn't really know what they were doing. This is why I quit working for them.)
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Need a little bit more help.. Sorry So 2 questions. On the site: http://www.mineocityhosting.com/minecraft When its saying $5.00 for 7 slots does it mean 27 slots? Because as you know you get 20 slots to start off with for free. Also, would that be 5 bucks a month? Or just 5 dollars?
Don't go off of slots. Number of slots is very inaccurate and misleading.
Like I said my server host says recommended slots 40-52
Though I definitely cannot have more than my 8-10 even without a single mod or plugin.
You need to base things off of amount of RAM, connection, and processing speeds compared to the amount of players you want + amount of plugins/mods.
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If you neglect the server or don't show it enough love it will also fall apart VERY quickly.
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