1.7.2 Magic

Thaumcraft 4.1.1.14 (Updated 20/5/2014)

  • #6421
    Is there a way to transfer the researchs from on save to another?
    Because I messed so bad with my old world that it became almost inusable.
    Last edited by Nockl: 12/12/2013 4:51:00 PM
  • #6422
    Quote from Nockl

    Is there a way to transfer the researchs from on save to another?
    Because I messed so bad with my old world that it became almost inusable.

    Move the player file over, as I recall all your research is stored there now.
  • #6423
    For lost research, the best option is to use the Creative thaumonomicon to give yourself all the research. The alternative is to just redo it all. If you were far enough along you'd have a massive abundance of research points. If you're short on research points you could use creative to spawn extra nodes to scan. Uh, of note is that spawning nodes is random and it's probably possible to spawn in a hungry node accidentally, so do it somewhere the hungry node won't eat anything important, and stay in Creative so it can't eat you.
  • #6424
    I have a server with the 4.0.3a. Should i update? Possible errors(research, items..)? (also i'm getting mad with the lack of exanimis in my version)
  • #6425
    Quote from IngerasKurai

    The server a friend and i were playing on crashed and we lost all out research :( . Is there a way to get it back with commands or something else?


    Nope. Unless you have a backup then there isn't anything to do really.

    Quote from smokehrbar

    I have a server with the 4.0.3a. Should i update? Possible errors(research, items..)? (also i'm getting mad with the lack of exanimis in my version)


    You might as well if a lack of exanimis is a concern. It was added to the brains in 4.0.4 I think. 4.0.5b is quite a stable version. Only problem seems to be pipes causing lag on servers however I'm not sure just how bad it gets. If it's a small server it shouldn't be much of a problem as long as someone dosen't go crazy with them.
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  • #6426
    Quote from Auric245524

    You might as well if a lack of exanimis is a concern. It was added to the brains in 4.0.4 I think. 4.0.5b is quite a stable version. Only problem seems to be pipes causing lag on servers however I'm not sure just how bad it gets. If it's a small server it shouldn't be much of a problem as long as someone dosen't go crazy with them.


    Thanks. But I was more interested in problems that may occur in the conversion.
  • #6427
    Quote from smokehrbar

    Thanks. But I was more interested in problems that may occur in the conversion.


    I didn't have any problems going from 4.0.3a to 4.0.4c. Haven't tried 4.0.5 yet, since essentia jars don't stack in that version and I have a lot of existing stacks.
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  • #6428
    Having upgraded from Thaumcraft 3 to Thaumcraft 4 I can say that almost everything is better.

    Nodes however...

    Let me put it this way, I have a 1.5.2 game Ive been playing, with TC3 in the pack that I havn't started. And starting it 'fresh' the following things feel like TC3 is an upgrade on TC4:

    The nodes look better.
    The node energy network is far, FAR, more immersive to work with. (chunk boundry issues notwithstanding)
    I am *looking forward* to be able to place AND GROW a node: It is way WAY more satisfying in TC3 to get a pure node into my base than it is in TC4.
    Getting depleted crystals, and creating crystal clusters and batteries to create and cache Viz into the end game is also far more satisfying than grabbing some nodes in bottles, and arranging them around a wand recharge station.

    TC4 Nodes are quite ... blegh now.
    Last edited by Farproc: 12/13/2013 7:32:25 AM
  • #6429
    Server 1.6.4
    Thaumcraft 4.0.5b

    I have here such errors on the server:


    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [INFO] Attempted to place a tile entity (thaumcraft.common.tiles.TileNode@6f11b2c1) at -148,73,-1158 (X2405) where there was no entity tile!
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [INFO] Chunk coordinates: -160,-1168
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] java.lang.Exception
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.Chunk.func_76604_a(Chunk.java:1115)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.Chunk.func_76620_a(Chunk.java:1077)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.storage.AnvilChunkLoader.loadEntities(AnvilChunkLoader.java:560)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOProvider.callStage2(ChunkIOProvider.java:49)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOProvider.callStage2(ChunkIOProvider.java:15)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.util.AsynchronousExecutor$Task.finish(AsynchronousExecutor.java:179)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.util.AsynchronousExecutor.finishActive(AsynchronousExecutor.java:287)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOExecutor.tick(ChunkIOExecutor.java:26)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:835)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71190_q(DedicatedServer.java:327)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71217_p(MinecraftServer.java:780)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:662)
    2013-12-10 22:57:48 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(ThreadMinecraftServer.java:16)
    2013-12-10 23:00:00 [INFO] CONSOLE: Forcing save.
    2013-12-10 23:00:00 [INFO] CONSOLE: Save complete.
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [INFO] Attempted to place a tile entity (thaumcraft.common.tiles.TileNode@46c4dc51) at -317,76,-1211 (X2405) where there was no entity tile!
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [INFO] Chunk coordinates: -320,-1216
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] java.lang.Exception
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.Chunk.func_76604_a(Chunk.java:1115)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.Chunk.func_76620_a(Chunk.java:1077)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.storage.AnvilChunkLoader.loadEntities(AnvilChunkLoader.java:560)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOProvider.callStage2(ChunkIOProvider.java:49)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOProvider.callStage2(ChunkIOProvider.java:15)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.util.AsynchronousExecutor$Task.finish(AsynchronousExecutor.java:179)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.util.AsynchronousExecutor.finishActive(AsynchronousExecutor.java:287)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOExecutor.tick(ChunkIOExecutor.java:26)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:835)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71190_q(DedicatedServer.java:327)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71217_p(MinecraftServer.java:780)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:662)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(ThreadMinecraftServer.java:16)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [INFO] Attempted to place a tile entity (thaumcraft.common.tiles.TileNode@7e42cf81) at -317,74,-1211 (X2405) where there was no entity tile!
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [INFO] Chunk coordinates: -320,-1216
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] java.lang.Exception
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.Chunk.func_76604_a(Chunk.java:1115)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.Chunk.func_76620_a(Chunk.java:1077)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.world.chunk.storage.AnvilChunkLoader.loadEntities(AnvilChunkLoader.java:560)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOProvider.callStage2(ChunkIOProvider.java:49)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOProvider.callStage2(ChunkIOProvider.java:15)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.util.AsynchronousExecutor$Task.finish(AsynchronousExecutor.java:179)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.util.AsynchronousExecutor.finishActive(AsynchronousExecutor.java:287)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_6_R3.chunkio.ChunkIOExecutor.tick(ChunkIOExecutor.java:26)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:835)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71190_q(DedicatedServer.java:327)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71217_p(MinecraftServer.java:780)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:662)
    2013-12-10 23:01:45 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(ThreadMinecraftServer.java:16)

    How to fix?
    Last edited by cubespace: 12/13/2013 2:26:55 AM
  • #6430
    Quote from cubespace

    Server 1.6.4
    Thaumcraft 4.0.5b

    ...

    How to fix?


    Its a tile entity crash, so you can try
    1. backup your save game
    2. open ~\.minecraft\config\forge.cfg and turn ON the option to delete crashing tile entities.
    3. reload the game.

    The deeper question is how this error came about - its rather unusual for a chunk to get out-of-synch with itself so either I am misinterpreting the crash log, or this crash is the result of a previous crash, that prevented the game being saved properly.
    Last edited by Farproc: 12/13/2013 3:58:32 AM
  • #6431
    Equal Trading things into Ladders can cause Ghost Ladders btw.... (Only a Rare chance but ladders destroy themselves after being place)
  • #6432
    Quote from Farproc

    Having upgraded from Thaumcraft 3 to Thaumcraft 4 I can say that almost everything is better.

    Nodes however...

    Let me put it this way, I have a 1.5.2 game Ive been playing, with TC3 in the pack that I havn't started. And starting it 'fresh' the following things feel like TC3 is an upgrade on TC4:

    The nodes look better.
    The node energy network is far, FAR, more immersive to work with. (chunk boundry issues notwithstanding)
    I am *looking forward* to be able to place AND GROW a node: It is way WAY more satisfying in TC3 to get a pure node into my base than it is in TC4.
    Getting depleted crystals, and creating crystal clusters and batteries to create and cache Viz into the end game is also far more satisfying than grabbing some nodes in bottles, and arranging them around a wand recharge station.

    TC4 Nodes are quite ... blegh now.


    That's the flip side of having the essentia system the new nodes have brought into the game. The nodes had more interactability in regards to the pure and tainted nodes to be sure, and the shards were a nice touch as well, but the new system is vastly better in terms of what you can do.

    I do wish you could grow crystal clusters again though. For instance, creating a fire crystal cluster from fire shards and placing it next to a node with fire essentia. Have it boost the essentia recovery rate of the fire essentia of that node a bit, and slowly grow fire shards. In short, you're attuning the nearby node to that element, so that element is more efficient. It's also passively leeching off the essentia from the node, slowly causing the crystal growth.

    Don't forget that Thaumcraft 4 is not complete yet, and things are still being fine-tuned and added. For the new system, I'm enjoying seeing the inclusion of taint (from the TC2 days) into the game again, myself. I just wish there was more you could do with it or interact with it. But again, still being updated and fine-tuned.
  • #6433
    Whoa... that last gave me an awesome idea... what if crystal clusters of the different types slowly increased the affinity for that essentia in the area? For instance, the fire focus did more damage at a lower essentia cost when within a certain range? Say it increased things by a % for the amount of crystals in the area. That % directly affects the above for that element.

    How about we expand upon that further? What if the % goes above a certain % when in the presence of a node with that essentia? What if it started affecting the area like a tainted node? Suddenly the surrounding area of that fire node started slowly turing into an area like the nether? dirt slowly became netherrack, water slowly became lava, etc. It wouldn't keep spreading outside the influence of the node like taint does, but it would affect say a 20 block radius around the node itself. If you didn't want this to occur, you'd have to go and harvest the crystals growing around the crystal clusters you placed to ensure it doesn't boost the % up too high.

    I see so many possabilities this could be used for~

    On a non-related note, I wish there was an essense extractor that allowed you to pull essentia from your wand into the thaumatic pipe system to be stored into jars, and vice-versa. That way you could have a more reliable way to gain the pure, base essentia for use in crafting far easier. Wouldn't mind an essence combiner that'd allow crafting of the combined essentia types in combination with that either...
  • #6434
    Quote from Shiar


    I do wish you could grow crystal clusters again though. For instance, creating a fire crystal cluster from fire shards and placing it next to a node with fire essentia. Have it boost the essentia recovery rate of the fire essentia of that node a bit, and slowly grow fire shards. In short, you're attuning the nearby node to that element, so that element is more efficient. It's also passively leeching off the essentia from the node, slowly causing the crystal growth.




    +1
    It would be nice to have more uses for nodes, perhaps reducing instability if placed near the infusion altar?
  • #6435
    Quote from Worgslarg

    +1
    It would be nice to have more uses for nodes, perhaps reducing instability if placed near the infusion altar?


    Ooooh! that'd be another nice use! Would most likely have to be order shards for that one.
  • #6436
    you know, i had another idea concerning the capturing of nodes.


    in principle, the mechanics to grow a node are already there.

    - first of all, the vis condenser. instead of recharging your wand on nodes, you would burn up shards to refuel it in the wand charging station.

    - the addition of plants that allow to grow shards. or just by planting them similar to thaumcraft 2, to make "shard farms" and get a steady supply of them for the recharge pedestal.


    and finally, nodes couldnt be captured anymore, because it would destroy them. except hungry nodes. they would be the only node type you could capture and transport into your base, after establishing a containment system. something, that reduces their pull to a very short radius, like 1 or 2 blocks and outside of it, you dont feel the effects of the node.

    you could grow them by feeding them (but it wouldnt recharge on its own). in principle it would be possible to even adjust the visuals of the node to grow larger, the more you feed it, even if it physically just takes up one block of space.


    then you could power thaumic blocks/devices off of it, by draining vis from the node and store it in form of essentia, power the wand recharge pedestal and various other things.

    of course a hungry node might be hard to find, but thats why there would be an alternative system to charge your wand until you do.



    however, if the containment would be broken for any reason, it would be like letting a nuke go off in your base. (well not exactly like it, since a hungry node would still give you enough time to reestablish the containment, or destroy it before it eats all your stuff).
    Last edited by IStoneI: 12/13/2013 9:28:17 AM
  • #6437
    I don't know if this is the place to post this but i think this research is not possible with the Runes given


  • #6438
    Quote from luisportillo27

    I don't know if this is the place to post this but i think this research is not possible with the Runes given


    It has been told a million times. Impossible research does happen and is intended. Throw it away and try again.
  • #6439
    Thaumostatic harness:

    Any way to reduce Potentia cost (can it be Frugal'ed?)

    Last edited by MallocErr: 12/13/2013 1:35:26 PM
  • #6440
    Quote from MallocErr

    Thaumostatic harness:

    Any way to reduce Potentia cost (can it be Frugal'ed?)


    nope.

    you can stack up quite a bit of speed with haste 3 boots of the traveller and haste 3 on the harness though. if you really wanna go cruising, you can get an 8 minute haste potion on top of that. should last about as long as a full jar of potentia.
    Last edited by IStoneI: 12/13/2013 2:52:14 PM
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