---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// I just don't know what went wrong
Time: 6/6/14 6:23 PM
Description: Initializing game
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Slot 1924 is already occupied by biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockBOPLeaves@62ac367f when adding biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockHive@182dfe75
at net.minecraft.block.Block.<init>(Block.java:349)
at biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockHive.<init>(BlockHive.java:26)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.initializeBlocks(BOPBlocks.java:191)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.init(BOPBlocks.java:96)
at biomesoplenty.BiomesOPlenty.preInit(BiomesOPlenty.java:76)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:545)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:201)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:181)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:112)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:522)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.beginMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:183)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:473)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:808)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:101)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:131)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:27)
A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Head --
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.block.Block.<init>(Block.java:349)
at biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockHive.<init>(BlockHive.java:26)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.initializeBlocks(BOPBlocks.java:191)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.init(BOPBlocks.java:96)
at biomesoplenty.BiomesOPlenty.preInit(BiomesOPlenty.java:76)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:545)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:201)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:181)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:112)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:522)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.beginMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:183)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:473)
-- Initialization --
Details:
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:808)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:101)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:131)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:27)
Item Id conflict. Look up on youtube how to fix them. Basically, one block has the same Identification number as another, causing a crash. Identification numbers can be changed in the mod's config file. A config folder should be in you .minecraft folder.
hmm i have two sugestions
remove these mods uildCraft|Transport{3.7.2} [BC Transport] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored BuildCraft|Silicon{3.7.2} [BC Silicon] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored BiomesOPlenty{1.2.1} [Biomes O' Plenty] (BiomesOPlenty-universal-1.6.4-1.2.1.434.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored or dont use more that many mods that what mod launchers are for to load the mods forge with regular minecraft cant always take that much mods tell me if one of the options works
Item Id conflict. Look up on youtube how to fix them. Basically, one block has the same Identification number as another, causing a crash. Identification numbers can be changed in the mod's config file. A config folder should be in you .minecraft folder.
Hope that helped!
That also true i see thatif u need a video i can find one for you
denLib
[1.6.4]bspkrsCorev5.2
[1.6.4]IngameInfo.Forge.1.6.4.r05
1.6.4 DamageIndicatorsv2.9.2.4
appeng-rv14-finale3-mc16x
ArchimedesShips
Artifice-1.1.3-243
AW-1.1.046-beta-MC164
BetterDungeons1-6-4_2091
BetterStorage-1.6.4-0.8.0.47
BiblioCraft[v1.5.5]
BiblioWoods[Forestry][v1.3]
BiblioWoods[Natura][v1.1]
BILLUND1.01
BiomesOPlenty-universal-1.6.4-1.2.1.434
buildcraft-A-3.7.2
denLib-1.6.4-3.1.35
industrialcraft-2-2.1.478-experimental-api
RailcraftMod1.6.4
and get the following crash report:
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// I just don't know what went wrong
Time: 6/6/14 6:23 PM
Description: Initializing game
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Slot 1924 is already occupied by biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockBOPLeaves@62ac367f when adding biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockHive@182dfe75
at net.minecraft.block.Block.<init>(Block.java:349)
at biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockHive.<init>(BlockHive.java:26)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.initializeBlocks(BOPBlocks.java:191)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.init(BOPBlocks.java:96)
at biomesoplenty.BiomesOPlenty.preInit(BiomesOPlenty.java:76)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:545)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:201)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:181)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:112)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:522)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.beginMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:183)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:473)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:808)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:101)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:131)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:27)
A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Head --
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.block.Block.<init>(Block.java:349)
at biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockHive.<init>(BlockHive.java:26)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.initializeBlocks(BOPBlocks.java:191)
at biomesoplenty.core.BOPBlocks.init(BOPBlocks.java:96)
at biomesoplenty.BiomesOPlenty.preInit(BiomesOPlenty.java:76)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:545)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:201)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:181)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:313)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:112)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:522)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.beginMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:183)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:473)
-- Initialization --
Details:
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:808)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:101)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:131)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:27)
-- System Details --
Details:
Minecraft Version: 1.6.4
Operating System: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1
Java Version: 1.7.0_55, Oracle Corporation
Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation
Memory: 100201856 bytes (95 MB) / 437780480 bytes (417 MB) up to 954728448 bytes (910 MB)
JVM Flags: 2 total; -XX:HeapDumpPath=MojangTricksIntelDriversForPerformance_javaw.exe_minecraft.exe.heapdump -Xmx1G
AABB Pool Size: 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) used
Suspicious classes: FML and Forge are installed
IntCache: cache: 0, tcache: 0, allocated: 0, tallocated: 0
FML: MCP v8.11 FML v6.4.49.965 Minecraft Forge 9.11.1.965 36 mods loaded, 36 mods active
mcp{8.09} [Minecraft Coder Pack] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
FML{6.4.49.965} [Forge Mod Loader] (minecraftforge-9.11.1.965.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
Forge{9.11.1.965} [Minecraft Forge] (minecraftforge-9.11.1.965.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
AppliedEnergistics-Core{rv14.finale3} [AppliedEnergistics Core] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
denLib{3.1.35} [denLib] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
DamageIndicatorsMod{2.9.2.4} [Damage Indicators] (1.6.4 DamageIndicatorsv2.9.2.4.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
bspkrsCore{v5.2(1.6.4)} [bspkrsCore] ([1.6.4]bspkrsCorev5.2.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
IngameInfo{Forge 1.6.4.r05} [IngameInfo] ([1.6.4]IngameInfo.Forge.1.6.4.r05.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
AppliedEnergistics{rv14.finale3} [Applied Energistics] (appeng-rv14-finale3-mc16x.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArchimedesShipsMod{1.6.4 v1.4.5} [Archimedes' Ships] (ArchimedesShips (1).zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
Artifice{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArtificeCompat|EE3{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice Compat: EE3] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArtificeCompat|Forestry{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice Compat: Forestry] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArtificeCompat|Vanilla{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice Compat: Vanilla] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArtificeCompat|MFR{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice Compat: MFR] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BuildCraft|Core{3.7.2} [BuildCraft] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArtificeCompat|Buildcraft{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice Compat: Buildcraft] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArtificeCompat|ForgeMicroblock{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice Compat: ForgeMicroblock] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ArtificeCompat|Thaumcraft{1.6.4R1.1.3} [Artifice Compat: Thaumcraft] (Artifice-1.1.3-243 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
AncientWarfare{1.1.045-beta-MC164} [Ancient Warfare] (AW-1.1.046-beta-MC164 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
AncientStructures{1.1.045-beta-MC164} [Ancient Warfare Structures Module] (AW-1.1.046-beta-MC164 (1).jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
betterstorage{0.8.0.47} [BetterStorage] (BetterStorage-1.6.4-0.8.0.47.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BiblioCraft{1.5.5} [BiblioCraft] (BiblioCraft[v1.5.5] (1).zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BiblioWoodsForestry{1.3} [BiblioWoods Forestry Edition] (BiblioWoods[Forestry][v1.3].zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BiblioWoodsNatura{1.1} [BiblioWoods Natura Edition] (BiblioWoods[Natura][v1.1].zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
Billund{1.01} [BILLUND] (BILLUND1.01.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BiomesOPlenty{1.2.1} [Biomes O' Plenty] (BiomesOPlenty-universal-1.6.4-1.2.1.434.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored
BuildCraft|Builders{3.7.2} [BC Builders] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BuildCraft|Energy{3.7.2} [BC Energy] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BuildCraft|Factory{3.7.2} [BC Factory] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
BuildCraft|Transport{3.7.2} [BC Transport] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored
BuildCraft|Silicon{3.7.2} [BC Silicon] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored
Railcraft{8.1.0.0} [Railcraft] (RailcraftMod1.6.4.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ForgeMultipart{1.0.0.227} [Forge Multipart] (ForgeMultipart-universal-1.6.4-1.0.0.227.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
McMultipart{1.0.0.227} [Minecraft Multipart Plugin] (ForgeMultipart-universal-1.6.4-1.0.0.227.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
ForgeMicroblock{1.0.0.227} [Forge Microblocks] (ForgeMultipart-universal-1.6.4-1.0.0.227.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized
Launched Version: 1.6.4-Forge9.11.1.965
LWJGL: 2.9.0
OpenGL: NVS 3100M/PCIe/SSE2 GL version 3.3.0, NVIDIA Corporation
Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'fml,forge'
Type: Client (map_client.txt)
Resource Pack: Default
Current Language: English (US)
Profiler Position: N/A (disabled)
Vec3 Pool Size: ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null
this means absolutely nothing to me... pleas explain!
Hope that helped!
remove these mods
uildCraft|Transport{3.7.2} [BC Transport] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored
BuildCraft|Silicon{3.7.2} [BC Silicon] (buildcraft-A-3.7.2.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored
BiomesOPlenty{1.2.1} [Biomes O' Plenty] (BiomesOPlenty-universal-1.6.4-1.2.1.434.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Errored
or
dont use more that many mods that what mod launchers are for to load the mods forge with regular minecraft cant always take that much mods tell me if one of the options works
That also true i see thatif u need a video i can find one for you
p.s if you can find a video that would be gait because i dont know what i'm looking for. lol
Slot 1924 is already occupied by biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockBOPLeaves@62ac367f when adding biomesoplenty.blocks.BlockHive@182dfe75.
so is this saying that biomes-o-plenty is interfering with it's self?