Hey, thanks so much for this guide! It is very hard to find a great bee breeding guide like this one. I just wanted to say thanks for your hard work that you put into this, it has helped me a lot! I can't wait for the new additions to complete the guide! : )
Alright, I have another update with Thaumic bees as well as new forestry tree breeding. It would be really really helpful if some other people could double check the ones i have posted as not sure of. I also know I am missing some Thaumic bees. I have been doing more tree breeding and doing a little less bees, so any information on the Thaumic bees I am missing would be greatly appreciated.
Arcane + Supernatural = Stark This now requires research in the thaumonomicon
These require a second set of research in the thaumonomicon Magic* Princes/drone + fire/water/earth shard = Ignis/Aqua/Solum princess/drone Magic* drone + Vis Shard = Praecantatio drone (seems to only work with drones) *Magic bees are bees from the Coeleste Branch or occult branch
??? + ??? = Batty (has a batty effect that spawns bats it used to crash the server, so i bred it out. Is it still glitched?) Demonic + Edenic = Aware
Tree Breeding Apple Oak + Birch = Silver Lime Silver Lime + Apple Oak (or Silver Birch) = Hill Cherry (Both apple oak and silver birch work) Hill Cherry + Silver Lime = Common Walnut Common Walnut + Hill Cherry = Sweet Chestnut
Red Spruce + Apple Oak = Mundane Larch Mundane Larch + Red Spruce = Bull Pine Bull pine + Mundane Larch = Sequoia
I can confirm Jungle and Silver Lime mutating into Teak, Jungle and Teak mutating into Kapok, Silver Birch and Apple Oak mutating into Silver Lime, and Red Spruce and Apple Oak mutating into Mundane Larch. Lucky you finding a Wenga sapling.
How do you get the Silver Lime? I have Apple Oak + Silver Birch, but I just get Apple Oak-Silver Birth hybrids instead of Silver Lime. This is from two colors of leaves after three RL days of trying.
I can confirm Jungle and Silver Lime mutating into Teak, Jungle and Teak mutating into Kapok, Silver Birch and Apple Oak mutating into Silver Lime, and Red Spruce and Apple Oak mutating into Mundane Larch. Lucky you finding a Wenga sapling.
Thanks for double checking my stuff. I found the desert acacia and the balsa in chests (technically my GF found them for me) in the twilight forest and bred the wenga myself. I was just lucky in my guess that they would breed together. If you get a chance, double check which tree breeds with the wenga, either the balsa or the acacia.
No problem, glad to help. This guide was great for me when I was just getting started. Now that I know bees, I figured I would help back and contribute.
How do you get the Silver Lime? I have Apple Oak + Silver Birch, but I just get Apple Oak-Silver Birth hybrids instead of Silver Lime. This is from two colors of leaves after three RL days of trying.
Most of the time you will get hybrids, there is a rare chance (10% I have heard) that instead of getting a hybrid, you get a new species (if you combine the right trees). Keep it up, I know it is slow. I have had more luck with cultivated bees (extra bees dont breed well with trees. that took me a LONG time to figure out). Build more apiaries or breed for faster pollination if you are tired of waiting.
Thanks for double checking my stuff. I found the desert acacia and the balsa in chests (technically my GF found them for me) in the twilight forest and bred the wenga myself. I was just lucky in my guess that they would breed together. If you get a chance, double check which tree breeds with the wenga, either the balsa or the acacia.
It'll take me a bit of time but I'll do what I can. Lucky you finding an acacia sapling then.
I must be doing something wrong with the tree breeding.
I have one mutation after 10 hours of active bees in the area ( 9 of them)
What exacly counts as a tree for the mod?
Ive been collecting leafs with a shear and have put them up in a controlled lab environment.
Grow real trees. I dont think sheared leaves work (leaves sheared by players behave differently than leaves spawned naturally). What is the pollination speed of your bees?
It'll take me a bit of time but I'll do what I can. Lucky you finding an acacia sapling then.
Thanks. I know it is a lot more work for you to double check my work than it is for me to. If you would rather try and find those last couple trees I can always go back instead and redo that breeding trial.
I can always start a creative world and NEI the needed saplings in. It's not that hard to check just takes time and some attention.
Edit: Serah if your bees have a low pollen speed get a few Rural bees running near em. They usually have a Fast pollen speed. Also don't automate them until Fast pollen is on active and inactive, screwed me out a line doing that.
Thank you VERY much for this guide. I've been relying on it pretty heavily for a few weeks now as I derped around with bees. For the last week, however, I have been trying to make some Heroic bees so I can move on to making some of the others so I can eventually make an alveary. I've bred Valiant Princess into Steadfasts and back a few times with ZERO success. I made soul frames the other day and it's still not working. I've tried Steadfast princess with valiant drones as well and it just refuses to work. I considered that it might be the biome I'm working in (a beach biome, normal/normal) so I moved to another (extreme hills), still nothing. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong here. If someone can help me out, either by replying to this or PMing me I would so grateful. Thanks!
Edit - sorry if this has already been discussed, I can't search within threads using this forum (at least as far as I can see) and google results return nothing.
Thank you VERY much for this guide. I've been relying on it pretty heavily for a few weeks now as I derped around with bees. For the last week, however, I have been trying to make some Heroic bees so I can move on to making some of the others so I can eventually make an alveary. I've bred Valiant Princess into Steadfasts and back a few times with ZERO success. I made soul frames the other day and it's still not working. I've tried Steadfast princess with valiant drones as well and it just refuses to work. I considered that it might be the biome I'm working in (a beach biome, normal/normal) so I moved to another (extreme hills), still nothing. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong here. If someone can help me out, either by replying to this or PMing me I would so grateful. Thanks!
Edit - sorry if this has already been discussed, I can't search within threads using this forum (at least as far as I can see) and google results return nothing.
You need to breed Heroic in a vanilla Forest biome.
i cant find even where to start.Do i just mix bees hoping to get these species for woods/ores/resources?
Im so lost, i have automated jungle rocky and imperial bee farms but i have no idea how to get the different species
http://extra-bees.wikia.com/wiki/Extra_Bees_Wiki
Here's a good start
Nevermind, I put them in an ocean and used soul frames, so one of those worked.
Here is the info:
Occult Branch
Imperial + Demonic or heroic + demonic = Esoteric
Esoteric + Ender = Mysterious
Mysterious + Esoteric = Arcane
(This line drops Occult combs)
Coeleste Branch
Cultivated + Valiant = Charmed (Havent double checked this yet)
Charmed + Valiant = Enchanted
Charmed + Enchanted = Supernatural
(This line drops Otherworldly combs)
Docto Branch
Enchanted + arcane = Pupil
Pupil + Arcane = Scholarly
Pupil + Scholarly = Savant
Arcane + Supernatural = Stark
This now requires research in the thaumonomicon
These require a second set of research in the thaumonomicon
Magic* Princes/drone + fire/water/earth shard = Ignis/Aqua/Solum princess/drone
Magic* drone + Vis Shard = Praecantatio drone (seems to only work with drones)
*Magic bees are bees from the Coeleste Branch or occult branch
??? + ??? = Batty (has a batty effect that spawns bats it used to crash the server, so i bred it out. Is it still glitched?)
Demonic + Edenic = Aware
Tree Breeding
Apple Oak + Birch = Silver Lime
Silver Lime + Apple Oak (or Silver Birch) = Hill Cherry (Both apple oak and silver birch work)
Hill Cherry + Silver Lime = Common Walnut
Common Walnut + Hill Cherry = Sweet Chestnut
Red Spruce + Apple Oak = Mundane Larch
Mundane Larch + Red Spruce = Bull Pine
Bull pine + Mundane Larch = Sequoia
Jungle + Silver Lime = Teak
Jungle + Teak = Kapok
Kapok + Teak = Myrtle Ebony
Kapok + Myrtle Ebony = Yellow Meranti
Balsa + Desert Acacia = Wenga (sorry, found these in chests)
(Balsa/Desert Acacia) + Wenga = Grandidier's Baobab (havent double checked which caused the mutation yet)
Thanks for double checking my stuff. I found the desert acacia and the balsa in chests (technically my GF found them for me) in the twilight forest and bred the wenga myself. I was just lucky in my guess that they would breed together. If you get a chance, double check which tree breeds with the wenga, either the balsa or the acacia.
No problem, glad to help. This guide was great for me when I was just getting started. Now that I know bees, I figured I would help back and contribute.
Most of the time you will get hybrids, there is a rare chance (10% I have heard) that instead of getting a hybrid, you get a new species (if you combine the right trees). Keep it up, I know it is slow. I have had more luck with cultivated bees (extra bees dont breed well with trees. that took me a LONG time to figure out). Build more apiaries or breed for faster pollination if you are tired of waiting.
It'll take me a bit of time but I'll do what I can. Lucky you finding an acacia sapling then.
Grow real trees. I dont think sheared leaves work (leaves sheared by players behave differently than leaves spawned naturally). What is the pollination speed of your bees?
Thanks. I know it is a lot more work for you to double check my work than it is for me to. If you would rather try and find those last couple trees I can always go back instead and redo that breeding trial.
Edit: Serah if your bees have a low pollen speed get a few Rural bees running near em. They usually have a Fast pollen speed. Also don't automate them until Fast pollen is on active and inactive, screwed me out a line doing that.
Edit - sorry if this has already been discussed, I can't search within threads using this forum (at least as far as I can see) and google results return nothing.
You need to breed Heroic in a vanilla Forest biome.