Growthcraft features do not generate in mystcraft ages. I've been suspecting this for a while now, so I finally tested it today. I've created dozens of random ages but I have yet to see a single beehive. Also, I created an age with only plains, and another with only jungles. Neither of the ages had any bamboo trees.
This is a major issue as I'm playing in a skyblock world, so I cannot acquire these items any other way. It would be nice if there was at least a villager that traded these items.
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Is there a special way to use the Bee Box? (ex. Placing flowers near it, etc.)
Yes, flowers should be placed around it in a 5x5 pattern with the Bee Box in the center.. It will quicken honeycomb and honey production, as well as spread the flowers.
Yes, flowers should be placed around it in a 5x5 pattern with the Bee Box in the center.. It will quicken honeycomb and honey production, as well as spread the flowers.
The neat thing about the bee box is that placing just one flower next to it will cause the flower to spread and fill the whole patch. Although if you're in a hurry, bonemealing the ground works too.
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You want a farm, you grab a hoe. You want a boat, you grab some wood. You want a fireplace, you grab A FLAMING HELL-BOULDER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MINECRAFTERS ROLL!!!
I've added the Bees module to my existing server. I'm wondering if there's a way to make natural hives appear in already explored terrain, or do we have to go out to the far reaches of our map to generate new terrain, to find hives?
I've added the Bees module to my existing server. I'm wondering if there's a way to make natural hives appear in already explored terrain, or do we have to go out to the far reaches of our map to generate new terrain, to find hives?
I think MCEdit has a way to delete all chunks you haven't modified, which would cause them to be regenerated with hives and any other worldgen changes enabled. Or you could just go into creative and give yourself a bee.
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You want a farm, you grab a hoe. You want a boat, you grab some wood. You want a fireplace, you grab A FLAMING HELL-BOULDER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MINECRAFTERS ROLL!!!
I think MCEdit has a way to delete all chunks you haven't modified, which would cause them to be regenerated with hives and any other worldgen changes enabled. Or you could just go into creative and give yourself a bee.
What part of what I asked… made you think I wanted to give myself a Bee? The question was "Is there a way to make natural hives appear in already explored terrain?"
which begs the question… What part of what I asked… made you think I don't know what Creative Mode is or how to use it, if I wanted to have a bee?
What part of what I asked… made you think I wanted to delete chunks for "Already explored terrain", on an "Existing Server"?
What do you mean you think MCEdit has a way to delete all chunks you haven't modified? You're not sure? You're answering questions to problems you don't understand, with solutions you're not even sure about?
What part of what I asked… made you think I wanted to give myself a Bee? The question was "Is there a way to make natural hives appear in already explored terrain?"
which begs the question… What part of what I asked… made you think I don't know what Creative Mode is or how to use it, if I wanted to have a bee?
What part of what I asked… made you think I wanted to delete chunks for "Already explored terrain", on an "Existing Server"?
What do you mean you think MCEdit has a way to delete all chunks you haven't modified? You're not sure? You're answering questions to problems you don't understand, with solutions you're not even sure about?
Please stop doing that. Everywhere.
Well, since you asked...
About the only use for natural beehives is getting bees. Some people don't think of creative mode, for a variety of reasons. Deleting and regenerating explored but unbuilt chunks would have given you the chance at beehives in your explored area, since you didn't want to have to generate new chunks for them. I said "I think" because while I've heard other users talk about that function, I've never personally used it and so can't give a guarantee.
And going all prima-donna when someone attempts to answer questions you posed is extremely toxic behavior. Please stop doing that. Everywhere.
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You want a farm, you grab a hoe. You want a boat, you grab some wood. You want a fireplace, you grab A FLAMING HELL-BOULDER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MINECRAFTERS ROLL!!!
About the only use for natural beehives is getting bees. Some people don't think of creative mode, for a variety of reasons. Deleting and regenerating explored but unbuilt chunks would have given you the chance at beehives in your explored area, since you didn't want to have to generate new chunks for them. I said "I think" because while I've heard other users talk about that function, I've never personally used it and so can't give a guarantee.
And going all prima-donna when someone attempts to answer questions you posed is extremely toxic behavior. Please stop doing that. Everywhere.
There's nothing prima-donna about calling someone out for answering questions to problems they don't understand with solutions they're not sure about. If I was an idiot, and knew less about minecraft than you supposed I did (ie. someone who doesn't know what creative mode does)… and I followed your instructions (using MCEdit, or deleting chunks)… I would have royally screwed my server up.
People that do what you did, cause more problems than they help.
There's nothing prima-donna about calling someone out for answering questions to problems they don't understand with solutions they're not sure about. If I was an idiot, and knew less about minecraft than you supposed I did (ie. someone who doesn't know what creative mode does)… and I followed your instructions (using MCEdit, or deleting chunks)… I would have royally screwed my server up.
People that do what you did, cause more problems than they help.
Not unless you'd changed terrain generation rules, you wouldn't. If you had added a biome mod or something, then regenerating chunks would cause chunk walls and other problems, but if all you've done is add beehives, it would do no such thing. I know of several users of other mods who've done the same thing in order to add mod ores. And even if it did screw up the world, well, that's why a wise server owner makes a backup before tinkering with their world.
As for creative mode, I know one user (CaerMaster) who was recently tripped up because he's so advanced that creative mode no longer occurs to him as a solution.
Since you say I don't understand the question, care to explain what you do want hives for?
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You want a farm, you grab a hoe. You want a boat, you grab some wood. You want a fireplace, you grab A FLAMING HELL-BOULDER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MINECRAFTERS ROLL!!!
Not unless you'd changed terrain generation rules, you wouldn't. If you had added a biome mod or something, then regenerating chunks would cause chunk walls and other problems, but if all you've done is add beehives, it would do no such thing. I know of several users of other mods who've done the same thing in order to add mod ores. And even if it did screw up the world, well, that's why a wise server owner makes a backup before tinkering with their world.
As for creative mode, I know one user (CaerMaster) who was recently tripped up because he's so advanced that creative mode no longer occurs to him as a solution.
Since you say I don't understand the question, care to explain what you do want hives for?
Not to drag this out, but this line of thinking already occurred to me, when I was trying to figure out where you were coming from… and I deduced that it's pretty safe to say that if someone knows enough to back up their world files (which most people don't), then they know enough about minecraft to use Creative mode when required (which most people do). What I'm saying is that if I took your advice to use a destructive solution, but was newb enough to not know what creative mode was, it stands to reason I would have caused more problems, and wouldn't have backed up the appropriate files by doing so.
As for CaerMaster, I don't know how to explain how somebody can be so advanced to forget how to use a basic function, but I guess there's one of every kind in every thing.
Anyway, I digress. I feel like you understand my point, so I'll drop it now.
To answer your questions…
The explored world is over 4000x4000, and is over 3 years old (MC-1.2.5), so deleting chunks wouldn't regen terrain the way it generated before, now that we're in MC-1.7.10.
Furthermore, the ore and stone generation has been completely altered in every way possible.
There is also biomes added, chunk walls have been dealt with, and all other problems that arose from the transition of worldgen of 1.2.5-1.7.10 have been managed.
It's a survival server, where cheating is not an option, so as to maintain the integrity of our claims. We consider that "any terrain that has been explored" to be an area that is "known" to our "Surveyors" (the people that explore and chart deposits and land features)… so by altering the terrain via regen, it would be considered a move that is incongruous with the "knowledge" of our residents, and it would be against the natural history of our civilization. In a nutshell, for all those reasons, chunk regen isn't an option.
IRL, beehives can appear in areas they weren't in before, in much the same way a flower can grow on a spot of grass where there was no flower before. While the world is 4000x4000, we generally stick to the center area of the map in terms of our daily activity, and to have to go to the far reaches of the known area to generate new terrain to find a beehive would be less favourable, than if they appeared (grew/spawned/generated) in the already known and existing areas of the map.
Not to drag this out, but this line of thinking already occurred to me, when I was trying to figure out where you were coming from… and I deduced that it's pretty safe to say that if someone knows enough to back up their world files (which most people don't), then they know enough about minecraft to use Creative mode when required (which most people do). What I'm saying is that if I took your advice to use a destructive solution, but was newb enough to not know what creative mode was, it stands to reason I would have caused more problems, and wouldn't have backed up the appropriate files by doing so.
As for CaerMaster, I don't know how to explain how somebody can be so advanced to forget how to use a basic function, but I guess there's one of every kind in every thing.
Anyway, I digress. I feel like you understand my point, so I'll drop it now.
To answer your questions…
The explored world is over 4000x4000, and is over 3 years old (MC-1.2.5), so deleting chunks wouldn't regen terrain the way it generated before, now that we're in MC-1.7.10.
Furthermore, the ore and stone generation has been completely altered in every way possible.
There is also biomes added, chunk walls have been dealt with, and all other problems that arose from the transition of worldgen of 1.2.5-1.7.10 have been managed.
It's a survival server, where cheating is not an option, so as to maintain the integrity of our claims. We consider that "any terrain that has been explored" to be an area that is "known" to our "Surveyors" (the people that explore and chart deposits and land features)… so by altering the terrain via regen, it would be considered a move that is incongruous with the "knowledge" of our residents, and it would be against the natural history of our civilization. In a nutshell, for all those reasons, chunk regen isn't an option.
IRL, beehives can appear in areas they weren't in before, in much the same way a flower can grow on a spot of grass where there was no flower before. While the world is 4000x4000, we generally stick to the center area of the map in terms of our daily activity, and to have to go to the far reaches of the known area to generate new terrain to find a beehive would be less favourable, than if they appeared (grew/spawned/generated) in the already known and existing areas of the map.
Would have been nice if you'd just led with "too old to regenerate, too in-character to cheat." No, Growthcraft has no retrogen function, you'll have to place the hives yourself as an admin if you want them. The natural density is about one or two per vanilla forest, scaling based on available underside-of-foliage-block spaces.
CaerMaster normally uses NotEnoughItems instead of creative inventory, and was tripped up when a dungeon-key item wasn't added to NEI. Others might be so used to "clean" survival that they wouldn't think to break character and use creative, or just having a brain fart, or whatever. I assume basic competence and an ability to tell whether my suggestions fit the recipient's situation when I post here.
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You want a farm, you grab a hoe. You want a boat, you grab some wood. You want a fireplace, you grab A FLAMING HELL-BOULDER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MINECRAFTERS ROLL!!!
Would have been nice if you'd just led with "too old to regenerate, too in-character to cheat." No, Growthcraft has no retrogen function, you'll have to place the hives yourself as an admin if you want them. Creative does have placeable natural hives. The natural density is about one or two per vanilla forest, scaling based on available underside-of-foliage-block spaces.
CaerMaster normally uses NotEnoughItems instead of creative inventory, and was tripped up when a dungeon-key item wasn't added to NEI. Others just might be so used to "clean" survival that they wouldn't think to break character and use creative, or just having a brain fart, or whatever. I assume basic competence and an ability to tell whether my suggestions fit the recipient's situation when I post here.
I've thought about hand-placing them, but obviously that'll be super time-consuming, and the downside is also that I'll know where they all are. Ideally, as a player on the server myself, I wouldn't know where they were.
I'm contemplating the idea of using an ore gen mod where I would use the hive blocks (instead of an ore block), with a distro that does a replace on leaf blocks in specific biomes, where the leaf block is replaced with the same leaf block + hive below it. That'll let me stick hives in trees, but it's less than perfect in that hives could be buried anywhere in the trees, instead of hanging from a branch. Conversely, I could do it with logs instead of leaves, but there's a chance the hive would appear IN the tree trunk, and the orientation of the replaced log might be wrong… and that'd look pretty weird.
Thanks!
Can somebody give me a link to the page with the 1.8 update? I can't find it.
Where did you get that Information? 1.8 Growthcraft isn't out.
Gwafu posted this earlier, but I cant find the source.
... That's the Minecraft forge downloads. http://files.minecraftforge.net/
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Oh, is there any news on a 1.8.3 update?
Growthcraft features do not generate in mystcraft ages. I've been suspecting this for a while now, so I finally tested it today. I've created dozens of random ages but I have yet to see a single beehive. Also, I created an age with only plains, and another with only jungles. Neither of the ages had any bamboo trees.
This is a major issue as I'm playing in a skyblock world, so I cannot acquire these items any other way. It would be nice if there was at least a villager that traded these items.
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Is there a special way to use the Bee Box? (ex. Placing flowers near it, etc.)
Yes, flowers should be placed around it in a 5x5 pattern with the Bee Box in the center.. It will quicken honeycomb and honey production, as well as spread the flowers.
The neat thing about the bee box is that placing just one flower next to it will cause the flower to spread and fill the whole patch. Although if you're in a hurry, bonemealing the ground works too.
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Curse PremiumI've added the Bees module to my existing server. I'm wondering if there's a way to make natural hives appear in already explored terrain, or do we have to go out to the far reaches of our map to generate new terrain, to find hives?
I think MCEdit has a way to delete all chunks you haven't modified, which would cause them to be regenerated with hives and any other worldgen changes enabled. Or you could just go into creative and give yourself a bee.
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Curse PremiumWhat part of what I asked… made you think I wanted to give myself a Bee? The question was "Is there a way to make natural hives appear in already explored terrain?"
which begs the question… What part of what I asked… made you think I don't know what Creative Mode is or how to use it, if I wanted to have a bee?
What part of what I asked… made you think I wanted to delete chunks for "Already explored terrain", on an "Existing Server"?
What do you mean you think MCEdit has a way to delete all chunks you haven't modified? You're not sure? You're answering questions to problems you don't understand, with solutions you're not even sure about?
Please stop doing that. Everywhere.
Well, since you asked...
About the only use for natural beehives is getting bees. Some people don't think of creative mode, for a variety of reasons. Deleting and regenerating explored but unbuilt chunks would have given you the chance at beehives in your explored area, since you didn't want to have to generate new chunks for them. I said "I think" because while I've heard other users talk about that function, I've never personally used it and so can't give a guarantee.
And going all prima-donna when someone attempts to answer questions you posed is extremely toxic behavior. Please stop doing that. Everywhere.
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Curse PremiumThere's nothing prima-donna about calling someone out for answering questions to problems they don't understand with solutions they're not sure about. If I was an idiot, and knew less about minecraft than you supposed I did (ie. someone who doesn't know what creative mode does)… and I followed your instructions (using MCEdit, or deleting chunks)… I would have royally screwed my server up.
People that do what you did, cause more problems than they help.
Not unless you'd changed terrain generation rules, you wouldn't. If you had added a biome mod or something, then regenerating chunks would cause chunk walls and other problems, but if all you've done is add beehives, it would do no such thing. I know of several users of other mods who've done the same thing in order to add mod ores. And even if it did screw up the world, well, that's why a wise server owner makes a backup before tinkering with their world.
As for creative mode, I know one user (CaerMaster) who was recently tripped up because he's so advanced that creative mode no longer occurs to him as a solution.
Since you say I don't understand the question, care to explain what you do want hives for?
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Curse PremiumNot to drag this out, but this line of thinking already occurred to me, when I was trying to figure out where you were coming from… and I deduced that it's pretty safe to say that if someone knows enough to back up their world files (which most people don't), then they know enough about minecraft to use Creative mode when required (which most people do). What I'm saying is that if I took your advice to use a destructive solution, but was newb enough to not know what creative mode was, it stands to reason I would have caused more problems, and wouldn't have backed up the appropriate files by doing so.
As for CaerMaster, I don't know how to explain how somebody can be so advanced to forget how to use a basic function, but I guess there's one of every kind in every thing.
Anyway, I digress. I feel like you understand my point, so I'll drop it now.
To answer your questions…
The explored world is over 4000x4000, and is over 3 years old (MC-1.2.5), so deleting chunks wouldn't regen terrain the way it generated before, now that we're in MC-1.7.10.
Furthermore, the ore and stone generation has been completely altered in every way possible.
There is also biomes added, chunk walls have been dealt with, and all other problems that arose from the transition of worldgen of 1.2.5-1.7.10 have been managed.
It's a survival server, where cheating is not an option, so as to maintain the integrity of our claims. We consider that "any terrain that has been explored" to be an area that is "known" to our "Surveyors" (the people that explore and chart deposits and land features)… so by altering the terrain via regen, it would be considered a move that is incongruous with the "knowledge" of our residents, and it would be against the natural history of our civilization. In a nutshell, for all those reasons, chunk regen isn't an option.
IRL, beehives can appear in areas they weren't in before, in much the same way a flower can grow on a spot of grass where there was no flower before. While the world is 4000x4000, we generally stick to the center area of the map in terms of our daily activity, and to have to go to the far reaches of the known area to generate new terrain to find a beehive would be less favourable, than if they appeared (grew/spawned/generated) in the already known and existing areas of the map.
Would have been nice if you'd just led with "too old to regenerate, too in-character to cheat." No, Growthcraft has no retrogen function, you'll have to place the hives yourself as an admin if you want them. The natural density is about one or two per vanilla forest, scaling based on available underside-of-foliage-block spaces.
CaerMaster normally uses NotEnoughItems instead of creative inventory, and was tripped up when a dungeon-key item wasn't added to NEI. Others might be so used to "clean" survival that they wouldn't think to break character and use creative, or just having a brain fart, or whatever. I assume basic competence and an ability to tell whether my suggestions fit the recipient's situation when I post here.
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Curse PremiumI've thought about hand-placing them, but obviously that'll be super time-consuming, and the downside is also that I'll know where they all are. Ideally, as a player on the server myself, I wouldn't know where they were.
I'm contemplating the idea of using an ore gen mod where I would use the hive blocks (instead of an ore block), with a distro that does a replace on leaf blocks in specific biomes, where the leaf block is replaced with the same leaf block + hive below it. That'll let me stick hives in trees, but it's less than perfect in that hives could be buried anywhere in the trees, instead of hanging from a branch. Conversely, I could do it with logs instead of leaves, but there's a chance the hive would appear IN the tree trunk, and the orientation of the replaced log might be wrong… and that'd look pretty weird.
That's where my head is at right now, anyway.