I'll make a mod too.
After they strike back at the US.
Hmm... I think I'll call it Armageddon.
Oh, too soon?
So was this.
Ok.....you're offended....by making fun of a mass murderer (that is the Osama bin Laden skin if you didnt know). If you're offended by making fun of terrorists, doesnt that make you a sympathizer? Do you miss him or something? I am offended by you supporting terrorism then.... Can we not be glad that somone who killed THOUSANDS, of Americans, Europeans, Africans, Asians, And Middle Eastern people alike, is finally dead?
And by all of you saying that he offended all Middle Eastern men, you yourself offend them by saying that they are similar to Osama bin laden. Many Middle Eastern men HATE Osama, and are glad he is dead. And before being offended, did you think about the many that died? I am not a blood thirsty american who wants to kill every Arab, but i am glad, that he has been brought to justice. I hope, that one day terrorists AND sympathizers, will one day be defeated, and that not just america, but the world will be a better place.
And in my opinion, this is a humorous skin edit, and im glad another person is learning to make minecraft mods
It doesn't matter if it's a video game or real life, it's still offensive, and it's just not right to pick fun at a group of people over the internet.
What specific group? A good deal of ( if not most) terrorists are middle eastern men, that doesn't mean all are though.
Actually, only about 10% of the world's terrorists are muslims, you have to think about E.T.A. the I.R.A. the F.A.R.C. Several christian ones over in India. However, the media has helped spread the belief that most terrorists are Muslims, which is absolutely not true.
Mods should not directly attack people based on stereotypes, no support.
Yes I totally agree, terrorists are of all faiths. But he isnt making fun of the Islamic faith, he is making fun of TERRORISTS AND TERRORISTS ALONE! He never made fun of the Islamic faith. In fact, Osama gave a bad name to Muslims all over! True, peaceful muslims should be glad of putting shame on terrorists. It's like people dont even remember that this particular man,(Osama) has killed many of people even of the islamic faith! They think that by making fun of ONE man we make fun of a whole religion. Osama wasn't even following true islamic practices. You're comparing innocent Muslims, to terrorists by saying that making fun of of Osama, is making fun of all Muslims.
And by all of you saying that he offended all Middle Eastern men, you yourself offend them by saying that they are similar to Osama bin laden. Many Middle Eastern men HATE Osama, and are glad he is dead. And before being offended, did you think about the many that died? I am not a blood thirsty american who wants to kill every Arab, but i am glad, that he has been brought to justice. I hope, that one day terrorists AND sympathizers, will one day be defeated, and that not just america, but the world will be a better place.
You make a good point I think; however, I myself still feel this mod may be in bad taste. As you mentioned People died and still do die in his manner, not just the terrorists (witch is sad in it self that they were driven to do it) but the victims of the attacks also died and I don't feel it's right to make a joke out of it.
Actually, only about 10% of the world's terrorists are muslims, you have to think about E.T.A. the I.R.A. the F.A.R.C. Several christian ones over in India. However, the media has helped spread the belief that most terrorists are Muslims, which is absolutely not true.
Mods should not directly attack people based on stereotypes, no support.
And do you have a statistic for the percentage of suicide bombers that are muslim? Because I'm sure it's more than 10%. I find this funny, creepers are suicide bombers. Maybe it's just my media indoctrination, but it seems like most (or at least the majority of) suicide bombers are muslim.
When I started making my gun mod, I was going to replace all of the monsters with people. Skeletons -> soldiers with guns, zombies -> guys with knives, and of course creepers -> suicide bombers. I didn't end up doing it but it definitely wasn't because I thought it would offend people. If you prefer political correctness to factual correctness, that's your problem.
1- And al-qaeda uses bombs, not being a naturally-occurring explosive organism, your point?
OK now you're just being deliberately obtuse. Change creeper -> suicide bomber, does it make sense? Yes, there's a guy running at you (albeit with no arms) that explodes. Change creeper -> kamikaze, does it make sense? No, because kamikaze's didn't run up to people and explode, they crashed their planes into things.
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2- It still happened, you cannot deny it, and is a perfectly valid example as any other.
I'm not denying it, I'm just saying it's not topical. Last few years vs. over 50 years ago, which do you think is more likely to be put into a game? That is of course if changing them into kamikazes even made sense, which it doesn't.
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3 - Actually, the statistic I read was 4% muslims, I decided to inflate it slightly because that information could be biased. If anything, I am over the true percentage of muslim terrorists.
I didn't mean your statistic was incorrect, I was saying you should admit that it's not relevant. We're not talking about the number of terrorists that are muslim, we're talking about the number of suicide bombers who are muslim. Vastly different statistics.
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I may not agree with what you say sir,
but I defend to my death your right to say it
Imagine I made a mod that turns mobs into jews, and you get to kill them, would you allow that?
This is always up to the moderators of the forum, this forum is a dictatorship and they can do whatever they want. In a free country, damn right you can make that game. I wouldn't like it, it's obviously meant just to be offensive, but you'd have the right.
The difference with this mod is that it's not necessarily meant to be hateful, it actually makes sense. If there were a realistic version of a creeper, the best analogue I can think of would be a suicide bomber. And I don't have any statistics, but I would imagine that in recent history the majority of suicide bombers were muslims with dark skin, so it makes sense to make the suicide bomber skin like that.
You know whats great about freedom and democracy? We have the FREEDOM to not click on offensive things.
I may not agree with what you say sir,
but I defend to my death your right to say it
The problem is, society always has a way of stepping all over the freedoms it gives you.
Anyone remember a little game called Wolfenstein 3D?? I wonder how many of the people complaining about a "Terrorist Mod" would have also bitched about that.
OK now you're just being deliberately obtuse. Change creeper -> suicide bomber, does it make sense? Yes, there's a guy running at you (albeit with no arms) that explodes. Change creeper -> kamikaze, does it make sense? No, because kamikaze's didn't run up to people and explode, they crashed their planes into things.
Aside from the fact that the word kamikaze is nowadays used as a generalized "suicide attack" term, if a Creeper chases you off a cliff the term would fit, would it not?? :3
I really don't understand why people are hating this thread so much.
1. If you don't like the mod, don't download it. I bet the mod creator never thought this thread would turn into a political rights discussion.
2. If somebody went on an SMP server and blew stuff up with TNT while wearing a Middle Eastern skin, would you be offended? Possibly, but probably not.
I agree completely with ScottyDoesKnow on this issue.
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Neckbeards! Doctor Cichocki does not approve of stupidity and neither do I, stop the spread of damned useless rules!
This is offensive and immature. You're a MODERATOR, goddammit. You should know better.
Let me just say something. Americans, as unlikely as it may seem, are not all crazy gun-toting redneck cowboys who dropped out of high school. We're humans, just like the rest of you. There are good people and there are bad people, just like every other nation.
So please, keep the lowbrow racist comments on 4Chan or wherever. We don't need it here.
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Btw, he isn't a moderator, just a sponsor
Do you plan on making more cool skins and sounds like these? :biggrin.gif:
I don't get why people re trolling you and saying that terrorists are great and should not be made fun of. >.>
I am totally moving out of america when i can -.- american people are such ponce's. Anyway that kinda made me lol, yeah its controversial but i dont really care, not a mod though just some simple things that would be easy....
Hah nice job though for making me laugh here take this , its potentially useless but whatever
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Still have'nt given any mod a diamond, which is pretty douchey of me
Extended 2x2 crafting is the best mod, in teh world. Period.
Dont have pic's because im too lazy...
Apple hutch?
Mynin all day everyday
Mods i support fully:
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Ok.....you're offended....by making fun of a mass murderer (that is the Osama bin Laden skin if you didnt know). If you're offended by making fun of terrorists, doesnt that make you a sympathizer? Do you miss him or something? I am offended by you supporting terrorism then.... Can we not be glad that somone who killed THOUSANDS, of Americans, Europeans, Africans, Asians, And Middle Eastern people alike, is finally dead?
And by all of you saying that he offended all Middle Eastern men, you yourself offend them by saying that they are similar to Osama bin laden. Many Middle Eastern men HATE Osama, and are glad he is dead. And before being offended, did you think about the many that died? I am not a blood thirsty american who wants to kill every Arab, but i am glad, that he has been brought to justice. I hope, that one day terrorists AND sympathizers, will one day be defeated, and that not just america, but the world will be a better place.
And in my opinion, this is a humorous skin edit, and im glad another person is learning to make minecraft mods
Yes I totally agree, terrorists are of all faiths. But he isnt making fun of the Islamic faith, he is making fun of TERRORISTS AND TERRORISTS ALONE! He never made fun of the Islamic faith. In fact, Osama gave a bad name to Muslims all over! True, peaceful muslims should be glad of putting shame on terrorists. It's like people dont even remember that this particular man,(Osama) has killed many of people even of the islamic faith! They think that by making fun of ONE man we make fun of a whole religion. Osama wasn't even following true islamic practices. You're comparing innocent Muslims, to terrorists by saying that making fun of of Osama, is making fun of all Muslims.
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You make a good point I think; however, I myself still feel this mod may be in bad taste. As you mentioned People died and still do die in his manner, not just the terrorists (witch is sad in it self that they were driven to do it) but the victims of the attacks also died and I don't feel it's right to make a joke out of it.
That is just my thought though.
And do you have a statistic for the percentage of suicide bombers that are muslim? Because I'm sure it's more than 10%. I find this funny, creepers are suicide bombers. Maybe it's just my media indoctrination, but it seems like most (or at least the majority of) suicide bombers are muslim.
When I started making my gun mod, I was going to replace all of the monsters with people. Skeletons -> soldiers with guns, zombies -> guys with knives, and of course creepers -> suicide bombers. I didn't end up doing it but it definitely wasn't because I thought it would offend people. If you prefer political correctness to factual correctness, that's your problem.
quit trollin.
Nobody is a fan of a group of people who have caused the worst attacks in history on U.S soil.
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what is this? i don't even...
1. They used planes.
2. Not current.
3. Just admit you're wrong about your statistic.
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I think we can work out our differences
Lolwut
WHO CARES?
You know whats great about freedom and democracy? We have the FREEDOM to not click on offensive things.
I may not agree with what you say sir,
but I defend to my death your right to say it
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You win. End of topic.
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OK now you're just being deliberately obtuse. Change creeper -> suicide bomber, does it make sense? Yes, there's a guy running at you (albeit with no arms) that explodes. Change creeper -> kamikaze, does it make sense? No, because kamikaze's didn't run up to people and explode, they crashed their planes into things.
I'm not denying it, I'm just saying it's not topical. Last few years vs. over 50 years ago, which do you think is more likely to be put into a game? That is of course if changing them into kamikazes even made sense, which it doesn't.
I didn't mean your statistic was incorrect, I was saying you should admit that it's not relevant. We're not talking about the number of terrorists that are muslim, we're talking about the number of suicide bombers who are muslim. Vastly different statistics.
This is always up to the moderators of the forum, this forum is a dictatorship and they can do whatever they want. In a free country, damn right you can make that game. I wouldn't like it, it's obviously meant just to be offensive, but you'd have the right.
The difference with this mod is that it's not necessarily meant to be hateful, it actually makes sense. If there were a realistic version of a creeper, the best analogue I can think of would be a suicide bomber. And I don't have any statistics, but I would imagine that in recent history the majority of suicide bombers were muslims with dark skin, so it makes sense to make the suicide bomber skin like that.
The problem is, society always has a way of stepping all over the freedoms it gives you.
Anyone remember a little game called Wolfenstein 3D?? I wonder how many of the people complaining about a "Terrorist Mod" would have also bitched about that.
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Aside from the fact that the word kamikaze is nowadays used as a generalized "suicide attack" term, if a Creeper chases you off a cliff the term would fit, would it not?? :3
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This isn't racist.
1. If you don't like the mod, don't download it. I bet the mod creator never thought this thread would turn into a political rights discussion.
2. If somebody went on an SMP server and blew stuff up with TNT while wearing a Middle Eastern skin, would you be offended? Possibly, but probably not.
I agree completely with ScottyDoesKnow on this issue.
This is offensive and immature. You're a MODERATOR, goddammit. You should know better.
Let me just say something. Americans, as unlikely as it may seem, are not all crazy gun-toting redneck cowboys who dropped out of high school. We're humans, just like the rest of you. There are good people and there are bad people, just like every other nation.
So please, keep the lowbrow racist comments on 4Chan or wherever. We don't need it here.
Mod-Edit: Warned for Off-Topic/flame
Btw, he isn't a moderator, just a sponsor
I don't get why people re trolling you and saying that terrorists are great and should not be made fun of. >.>
Hah nice job though for making me laugh here take this , its potentially useless but whatever
Extended 2x2 crafting is the best mod, in teh world. Period.
Dont have pic's because im too lazy...
Apple hutch?
Mynin all day everyday
Mods i support fully: