So, I've been playing minecraft since 1.7.1 and I have to ask, why do people say certain mod packs are "legal" or "illegal," due to the terms of service you have to agree to get minecraft, aren't ALL Mods illegal? Even though Mojang says "yeah we're cool with it." Doesn't the contract that comes with minecraft explicitly state that you aren't allowed to modify the class files? I thought that's why all Minecraft releases are released Obfuscated, instead of with a source code? I could be wrong, I just wanted someone to educate me on the subject because it's a bit confusing to be honest.
No, Minecraft is open-source. People are allowed to mess about with it.
When people say "Legal" and "Illegal", they mean in servers - usually survival - that would give them an unfair advantage. I think.
Minecraft is closed source, the source-code has not been released for it.
The game is easy to mod due to how java works.
There was a time in early alpha when Notch's stance on mods wasn't know, now we know they are cool with it.
If you've bought the game, you may play around with it and modify it. We'd appreciate it if you didn't use this for griefing, though, and remember not to distribute the changed versions of our software. Basically, mods (or plugins, or tools) are cool (you can distribute those), hacked versions of the Minecraft client or server are not (you can't distribute those).
No, Minecraft is open-source. People are allowed to mess about with it.
When people say "Legal" and "Illegal", they mean in servers - usually survival - that would give them an unfair advantage. I think.
Then why is the code obfuscated?
To be honest looking at Mojang's code, there's a lot places where it could use some serious optimization >.<
@Nimph
Oh interesting, is that why modder's get mad when people put their mods in mod packs without their permission? Because they lose out on adfly pennies?
Another reason might be that is a requirement to obtain permission from the mod author before one can include said author's mod in his or her modpack. Many people bypass this rule, and their thread is subsequently flamed and deleted.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, OP, but this is my best guess. I apologize if I am incorrect.
Another reason might be that is a requirement to obtain permission from the mod author before one can include said author's mod in his or her modpack. Many people bypass this rule, and their thread is subsequently flamed and deleted.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, OP, but this is my best guess. I apologize if I am incorrect.
Yes. This. I had always assumed modifying the base code and releasing .class files was technically illegal, so I never understood when law breakers stole software, though this clarification makes sense. Even though I still find it a bit silly.
To be honest looking at Mojang's code, there's a lot places where it could use some serious optimization >.<
@Nimph
Oh interesting, is that why modder's get mad when people put their mods in mod packs without their permission? Because they lose out on adfly pennies?
They are using that person's content without permission regardless of whether or not the maker is making money of it, I'd be pretty annoyed if that happened.
They are using that person's content without permission regardless of whether or not the maker is making money of it, I'd be pretty annoyed if that happened.
Even if they credit-ed you?
(For the record, I'm not planning to do anything like that, or to defend some "infamous" packs like Technic, Tekkit, or DNS. I just always wondered the reasoning behind the rage.)
(For the record, I'm not planning to do anything like that, or to defend some "infamous" packs like Technic, Tekkit, or DNS. I just always wondered the reasoning behind the rage.)
Actually the term "Illegal ModPack" comes from the forum as an easy way to label a mod pack that has essentially stolen the mods it uses and does not abide by the rule that you need permission from each and every modder of the mod you are using in your pack. If you post it on the forum that is.
Actually the term "Illegal ModPack" comes from the forum as an easy way to label a mod pack that has essentially stolen the mods it uses and does not abide by the rule that you need permission from each and every modder of the mod you are using in your pack. If you post it on the forum that is.
^This. I've realized over time that mods are always right.
Mods are allowed. Mods being allowed are things like industrial craft, buildcraft, TMI. Things like that. Some servers don't allow mods because of an unfair advantage as previously mentioned in this post. Minecraft is 100% open sources. (Why do you think there is MCP?)
Illegal mod packs are things like Technic/Tekkit. They did not get mods authors permission to use those mods and that pack is for people who don't like installing mods or don't know how to. If you see some mod authors posts they will say that they have edited their mods so that technic can't use them. To summarize, mods are legal, minecraft is open sources and some mod packs are illegal because they didn't get the mod authors permission.
(For the record, I'm not planning to do anything like that, or to defend some "infamous" packs like Technic, Tekkit, or DNS. I just always wondered the reasoning behind the rage.)
There is actually a very large difference between crediting the authors and actually earning their permission. Just because you recognize the author on your download page doesn't mean you can bypass intellectual copyright laws. Same with physical subjects: even if you credit Gallileo after you plagiarized his work, it's still plagiarism. Besides, the real blokes we should be bashing right now are those annoying imbecilic Brits on YouTube for popularizing it in the first place. If you want to install mods without shittons of work, use MultiMC instead.
Just crediting the mod maker is not good enough I'm afraid. You need written permission from the original creator (Or in some cases the guy/gal working on it at the present time.) and have proof of that permission posted in the opening post of the mod thread. Be it a picture quote whatever. Picture is preferred.
Minecraft is closed source, the source-code has not been released for it.
The game is easy to mod due to how java works.
There was a time in early alpha when Notch's stance on mods wasn't know, now we know they are cool with it.
From http://Minecraft.net/terms
Then why is the code obfuscated?
To be honest looking at Mojang's code, there's a lot places where it could use some serious optimization >.<
@Nimph
Oh interesting, is that why modder's get mad when people put their mods in mod packs without their permission? Because they lose out on adfly pennies?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, OP, but this is my best guess. I apologize if I am incorrect.
Yes. This. I had always assumed modifying the base code and releasing .class files was technically illegal, so I never understood when law breakers stole software, though this clarification makes sense. Even though I still find it a bit silly.
They are using that person's content without permission regardless of whether or not the maker is making money of it, I'd be pretty annoyed if that happened.
Even if they credit-ed you?
(For the record, I'm not planning to do anything like that, or to defend some "infamous" packs like Technic, Tekkit, or DNS. I just always wondered the reasoning behind the rage.)
It varies from person to person.
Venit, quessit, induravit.
^This. I've realized over time that mods are always right.
Illegal mod packs are things like Technic/Tekkit. They did not get mods authors permission to use those mods and that pack is for people who don't like installing mods or don't know how to. If you see some mod authors posts they will say that they have edited their mods so that technic can't use them. To summarize, mods are legal, minecraft is open sources and some mod packs are illegal because they didn't get the mod authors permission.
There is actually a very large difference between crediting the authors and actually earning their permission. Just because you recognize the author on your download page doesn't mean you can bypass intellectual copyright laws. Same with physical subjects: even if you credit Gallileo after you plagiarized his work, it's still plagiarism. Besides, the real blokes we should be bashing right now are those annoying imbecilic Brits on YouTube for popularizing it in the first place. If you want to install mods without shittons of work, use MultiMC instead.
Venit, quessit, induravit.