Is there something about this update that would have caused ice to form where it wasn't before? I pawned next to a swamp when I created my world. My bit of forrest is separated from the swamp by a small river, which did NOT have ice in it when I started. But, I just headed out of my house with the intention of exploring now that I have a compass, and my river is covered with ice! Not really sure why. I suppose it's not a big deal, cept that it just shouldn't be there. I don't remember ice being able to form randomly like that, not so far away from snow, anyway.
This is doubly annoying for me, because this happened to me way back in 1.7 as well. The sea near my house froze over. I had bridges, a lighthouse, and used to travel by boat everywhere. In 1.8, the biome changed back to its original desert, so it wouldn't re-freeze again. I finally got around to making tons of jack-o-lanterns and placing them on the ice to melt it. I spent the last few days melting it all, and now it's starting to freeze again! The pool at my resort hotel is freezing too.
For me it's a big deal.
I spawned in a tundra biome and before 1.1 there was no water which got frozen. Now my egg farm and my wheat farm are unusable because they work with water and water freezes even without snowing.... argh.
I think about moving my buildings with MCEdit or starting a new map.
Didn't even think about it affecting my wheat farm. So far I'm not finding any significant amount of water that isn't iced over now. A few squares here and there, but mostly ice. McMap gives me hope, as it seems it's only by my spawn that got frozen, but we'll see as I wander, I guess.
God I hope someone brings a mod soon to counter this...
This statement is laughable, and it drives home a point that I have been thinking about for some time.
It's not up to the community to fix problems and issues created by the developers, it's up to the developers.
Mojang: You are doing a great job so far, but you need two things other companies have that you don't:
1. Customer Service. You have my money, as a customer I demand some support for it when I need it. Your current CS level = 0
2. Public Relations. This is not the same as Customer Support. This would be the official voice to the people when issues exactly like this one arrives. Someone who's job is to let us know what is going on. Someone that has a real presence on these (or on your own official) forums.
Tweets are great. They should not be used in lieu of real customer relations.
Edit: To start, and to ensure I am true to my own statements I've made in other posts, here is a free service which will allow at least a start on Customer Support:
I really don't understand why they needed to make it snow in the pine forests.
A few people on our server made their homes in the forest because they liked that biome. Now all of their outside water will freeze, and it will snow there instead of rain. If we update our server to 1.1, they are gonna be pissed.
I really don't understand why they needed to make it snow in the pine forests.
A few people on our server made their homes in the forest because they liked that biome. Now all of their outside water will freeze, and it will snow there instead of rain. If we update our server to 1.1, they are gonna be pissed.
I for one am thrilled that snow is returning to the pine forests. My first home was atop a snowy hill in a pine forest and the game has just felt... off without them.
Back on topic: They could always just build a glass platform at sky-level to block falling snow. If the snow can't touch the ground it won't freeze anything or ... well accumulate. Project Bio-dome is go!
Is it possible the snow/ice showing up is tied to a new seasonal variation in 1.1? Maybe by spring time, the ice will start to melt? Try setting your computer's clock to July, restart the game, and see what happens? That would be kinda of cool if they sneaked that in! (though it would be backwards for players in the Southern hemisphere)
The snow is due to the seeds being altered. Every time Minecraft is patched, the seeds change slightly, and yours, it would seem has placed a snow biome on your area. This happened to me on my server, our SpawnCity went from normal to a winter wonderland when Minecraft went to 1.0. Nothing you can do about it really....
The snow is due to the seeds being altered. Every time Minecraft is patched, the seeds change slightly, and yours, it would seem has placed a snow biome on your area. This happened to me on my server, our SpawnCity went from normal to a winter wonderland when Minecraft went to 1.0. Nothing you can do about it really....
Bio-dome!
Sure its a ton of glass... but it is something you can do to fight back against nature.
The snow is due to the seeds being altered. Every time Minecraft is patched, the seeds change slightly, and yours, it would seem has placed a snow biome on your area. This happened to me on my server, our SpawnCity went from normal to a winter wonderland when Minecraft went to 1.0. Nothing you can do about it really....
I do not really buy this. I have yet to see any snow although it has rained. The oceans and larger/deeper bodies of water in my area have not frozen. Essentially everything is the same except my ponds have frozen (except where it is shady?)and I have had to use waterfalls as a workaround to keep my farming going.
I do not really buy this. I have yet to see any snow although it has rained. The oceans and larger/deeper bodies of water in my area have not frozen. Essentially everything is the same except my ponds have frozen (except where it is shady?)and I have had to use waterfalls as a workaround to keep my farming going.
The altering being mentioned is for people who built in pine-forests prior to the update. It was actually listed as a bug that these biomes didn't have snowfall, but rain instead.
So when the bug was corrected, and now there is snow where it belongs, some individuals are still offended by it because they more then likely didn't see the bug list. Its unfortunate; but it happens.
The altering being mentioned is for people who built in pine-forests prior to the update. It was actually listed as a bug that these biomes didn't have snowfall, but rain instead.
So when the bug was corrected, and now there is snow where it belongs, some individuals are still offended by it because they more then likely didn't see the bug list. Its unfortunate; but it happens.
Then it sounds like the bug was maybe not corrected. I am in a Pine forest without any snow and I have ice in some spots. I have absolutely no biomes with snow anywhere near me.
here is a screenshot to give you an idea. the icing is visible as well as where it is not. Again it has been raining still after update.
Back on topic: They could always just build a glass platform at sky-level to block falling snow. If the snow can't touch the ground it won't freeze anything or ... well accumulate. Project Bio-dome is go!
That's... actually a pretty awesome idea... I may have to suggest that. :smile.gif:
So, regarding that -- I know water source blocks won't freeze into ice if there is a solid block somewhere above them. Would glass work for that as well? Like, will a glass block prevent water freeze (because it is considered non-opaque, and has weird properties because of that, I'm not sure if it works for this)?
EDIT:
Uh... just realized... once it snows on top of the glass, wouldn't the snow block out all the sunlight though?
Then it sounds like the bug was maybe not corrected. I am in a Pine forest without any snow and I have ice in some spots. I have absolutely no biomes with snow anywhere near me.
here is a screenshot to give you an idea. the icing is visible as well as where it is not. Again it has been raining still after update.
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I am not sure but maybe snow didnt fall because it wasnt a complete ice biome
Wish I had realized it was a bug... would have warned them to not build there.
That's... actually a pretty awesome idea... I may have to suggest that. :smile.gif:
So, regarding that -- I know water source blocks won't freeze into ice if there is a solid block somewhere above them. Would glass work for that as well? Like, will a glass block prevent water freeze (because it is considered non-opaque, and has weird properties because of that, I'm not sure if it works for this)?
EDIT:
Uh... just realized... once it snows on top of the glass, wouldn't the snow block out all the sunlight though?
Glass is a 'clear block' that is a special exception to the normal rules. Snow will not accumulate on top of it.
People never experienced it as a bug, but as normal. So naturally they are upset because the world they build upon has changed and thus so the idea and vision they had of their world suddenly doesn't fit together anymore. Regardless from the fact it was a bug or not.
And a game designer should never forget about that and go around kicking down their fans' sandbox sandcastles just because they gave them the wrong sand.
Just as I, who made a venice-like sandstone desert town, seeing my six months project being incased into ice. :/
I can sympathize; but ignorance of a bug shouldn't grant you special case immunity to the dev's 'fix'. The specific biome that was corrected was "Tagia", generally; a pine forest with the snow condition. Not all pine forests have the "Tagia" tag (but most of them do), so there will be some rarer cases that will not find themselves suddenly under a blizzard's onslaught.
I can not find confirmation at the moment but it doesn't look like terrain generation was changed 'enough' to cause a biome shift as per the 1.4 -> 1.5 / 1.6 changes. Those were quite literally cataclysmic.
Your options at this point (for saving your project) are essentially:
-Project Bio-dome
-Revert / downgrade your .jar to 1.0
-Use an editing program to pull a schematic of your buildings and import them to a new map that has a proper biome type to fit the vision of your project.
Lastly; I don't think this change was meant to convey the hostility your words imply. The devs weren't kicking down your proverbial sandbox castle intentionally, they were fixing a switch that broke in patches long long past. It would be as if the tide went out; and staid out for months. New people come to the beach, and the tide decides its time to roll back in. The tide is not intentionally playing the bully and eating your castles, its simply returning to the way it was.
When I read this topic I loaded my world and ran straight back to my house to see if it would start snowing at my house! unfortunately it's still the same :sad.gif:. I guess I'll just build my house in a nearby pineforest.
I thought that Taiga was supposed to have snow and ice, but I also thought that the ice only formed *when it snowed*. In my taiga biomes, the ice is forming automatically and comes back as soon as you break it. Is this normal? I'm pretty sure this is a bug.
I thought that Taiga was supposed to have snow and ice, but I also thought that the ice only formed *when it snowed*. In my taiga biomes, the ice is forming automatically and comes back as soon as you break it. Is this normal? I'm pretty sure this is a bug.
It is normal for any 'exposed' water block to freeze when it is located in a biome that can experience snow.
IE: If it can snow in a region; all water blocks that are not covered will begin freezing. Its been like this for... well quite some time. I'm estimating the 1.6 era or so; but it was at least present in 1.7.3 time.
I suggest making a green house.
Didn't even think about it affecting my wheat farm. So far I'm not finding any significant amount of water that isn't iced over now. A few squares here and there, but mostly ice. McMap gives me hope, as it seems it's only by my spawn that got frozen, but we'll see as I wander, I guess.
This statement is laughable, and it drives home a point that I have been thinking about for some time.
It's not up to the community to fix problems and issues created by the developers, it's up to the developers.
Mojang: You are doing a great job so far, but you need two things other companies have that you don't:
1. Customer Service. You have my money, as a customer I demand some support for it when I need it. Your current CS level = 0
2. Public Relations. This is not the same as Customer Support. This would be the official voice to the people when issues exactly like this one arrives. Someone who's job is to let us know what is going on. Someone that has a real presence on these (or on your own official) forums.
Tweets are great. They should not be used in lieu of real customer relations.
Edit: To start, and to ensure I am true to my own statements I've made in other posts, here is a free service which will allow at least a start on Customer Support:
http://www.comm100.com/knowledgebase/
A knowledge base of some kind would be extremely helpful.
A few people on our server made their homes in the forest because they liked that biome. Now all of their outside water will freeze, and it will snow there instead of rain. If we update our server to 1.1, they are gonna be pissed.
I for one am thrilled that snow is returning to the pine forests. My first home was atop a snowy hill in a pine forest and the game has just felt... off without them.
Back on topic: They could always just build a glass platform at sky-level to block falling snow. If the snow can't touch the ground it won't freeze anything or ... well accumulate. Project Bio-dome is go!
Bio-dome!
Sure its a ton of glass... but it is something you can do to fight back against nature.
I do not really buy this. I have yet to see any snow although it has rained. The oceans and larger/deeper bodies of water in my area have not frozen. Essentially everything is the same except my ponds have frozen (except where it is shady?)and I have had to use waterfalls as a workaround to keep my farming going.
The altering being mentioned is for people who built in pine-forests prior to the update. It was actually listed as a bug that these biomes didn't have snowfall, but rain instead.
So when the bug was corrected, and now there is snow where it belongs, some individuals are still offended by it because they more then likely didn't see the bug list. Its unfortunate; but it happens.
Then it sounds like the bug was maybe not corrected. I am in a Pine forest without any snow and I have ice in some spots. I have absolutely no biomes with snow anywhere near me.
here is a screenshot to give you an idea. the icing is visible as well as where it is not. Again it has been raining still after update.
That's... actually a pretty awesome idea... I may have to suggest that. :smile.gif:
So, regarding that -- I know water source blocks won't freeze into ice if there is a solid block somewhere above them. Would glass work for that as well? Like, will a glass block prevent water freeze (because it is considered non-opaque, and has weird properties because of that, I'm not sure if it works for this)?
EDIT:
Uh... just realized... once it snows on top of the glass, wouldn't the snow block out all the sunlight though?
I am not sure but maybe snow didnt fall because it wasnt a complete ice biome
Glass is a 'clear block' that is a special exception to the normal rules. Snow will not accumulate on top of it.
I can sympathize; but ignorance of a bug shouldn't grant you special case immunity to the dev's 'fix'. The specific biome that was corrected was "Tagia", generally; a pine forest with the snow condition. Not all pine forests have the "Tagia" tag (but most of them do), so there will be some rarer cases that will not find themselves suddenly under a blizzard's onslaught.
I can not find confirmation at the moment but it doesn't look like terrain generation was changed 'enough' to cause a biome shift as per the 1.4 -> 1.5 / 1.6 changes. Those were quite literally cataclysmic.
Your options at this point (for saving your project) are essentially:
-Project Bio-dome
-Revert / downgrade your .jar to 1.0
-Use an editing program to pull a schematic of your buildings and import them to a new map that has a proper biome type to fit the vision of your project.
Lastly; I don't think this change was meant to convey the hostility your words imply. The devs weren't kicking down your proverbial sandbox castle intentionally, they were fixing a switch that broke in patches long long past. It would be as if the tide went out; and staid out for months. New people come to the beach, and the tide decides its time to roll back in. The tide is not intentionally playing the bully and eating your castles, its simply returning to the way it was.
It is normal for any 'exposed' water block to freeze when it is located in a biome that can experience snow.
IE: If it can snow in a region; all water blocks that are not covered will begin freezing. Its been like this for... well quite some time. I'm estimating the 1.6 era or so; but it was at least present in 1.7.3 time.