They will, anyone who bought after Alpha will have to pay for all updates once the game is released.
Oh, I thought he said that anything people have to pay for in the future will be free for Alpha members. Can I see where he said the all updates, no matter what, will require being paid for?
I've seen many more recent posts and tweets from him, and I noticed that he seems to like the idea of selling capes more. Besides, there was absolutely no plan behind this.
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"Science isn't a matter of WHY, it's a matter of WHY NOT? WHY is so much of our science dangerous? Why don't you marry safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why don't you invent a special safety door that won't slam you in the butt on your way out? BECAUSE YOU ARE FIRED!" -Cave Johnson
Both of the statements are hypothetical. However, this post is much more recent a thus more likely to happen. Remember when Notch got the idea of making flaoting blocks require support from Obsidian? Same thing probably happened here.
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"Science isn't a matter of WHY, it's a matter of WHY NOT? WHY is so much of our science dangerous? Why don't you marry safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why don't you invent a special safety door that won't slam you in the butt on your way out? BECAUSE YOU ARE FIRED!" -Cave Johnson
The only reason he changed the statements as said in his blog-post LINK
is because the lawyers he hired were unhappy with how he worded it, and what the consequences were.
In the previous statement, it said that people would get all future versions for free, which would probably also include Minecraft 2 if it was ever produced. And I believe it is this they tried to remove from the license.
Obviously OP can't read as it clearly states that ONLY Alpha testers will get minecraft for free forever and that beta users will only get everything free up until the games official release.
Being an Alpha tester is like buying the collecter's eddition to a game but instead of getting a cute little mousepad and a book filled with game art the alpha testers will be getting all future updates for free for being the first ones to test the game and spread the news about it by word of mouth.
Personally I think it is fitting for the people who helped Notch push the game into beta and ultimately to completion get rewarded and really, Notch could have rewarded Alpha players with ANYTHING but he just happened to decide that it would be all future major content for free.
Not and Alpha user? Sorry, sucks to be you.
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Yo dawg, I heard you liked mining diamonds with diamonds so we put diamonds in your mine so you can mine with your diamonds while you mine your diamonds.
Any user who has purchased Minecraft anytime between it going on sale and when Minecraft hit Beta will get ALL future updates and ALL DLC for free.
Any user who has purchased Minecraft AFTER Minecraft hit Beta will NOT have to pay for future updates, but any DLC will have to be paid for, and is completely optional.
If you actually read the text that's on the screen while buying the game you should know.
I bought the game a week before Beta so I guess I'm lucky :3
Checking if someone had the same thing I was going to say. You did. :smile.gif:
He didn't have any plans for DLC when he said that. He just wouldn't want to promise too much.
This. Guys, this is a ridiculous claim. Notch changed that clause because the alternative was that he promised to never make something so awesome and time consuming that it was worth paying for and actually getting money out of it. He changed it because the future is a mystical, mysterious thing, and you should never say never. He's not saying that he intends to make paid updates a thing - he's saying "I don't want to prohibit our company from ever doing them." He made the change last year. Do you guys think he had any concrete conception of what Minecraft would be like post-release, at the time? I bet if you said "enderdragon" to him, he'd say "end-wha?"
Maybe nothing will come of this little possibility. Maybe something will. Presumably Mojang will have to make a substantial piece of DLC to charge us for it.
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Make note: I generally avoid being insulting. If I sound insulting, I'm probably joking.
This. Guys, this is a ridiculous claim. Notch changed that clause because the alternative was that he promised to never make something so awesome and time consuming that it was worth paying for and actually getting money out of it. He changed it because the future is a mystical, mysterious thing, and you should never say never. He's not saying that he intends to make paid updates a thing - he's saying "I don't want to prohibit our company from ever doing them." He made the change last year. Do you guys think he had any concrete conception of what Minecraft would be like post-release, at the time? I bet if you said "enderdragon" to him, he'd say "end-wha?"
Maybe nothing will come of this little possibility. Maybe something will. Presumably Mojang will have to make a substantial piece of DLC to charge us for it.
I guess people are afraid of paying a couple of dollars extra every now and then for a great game even though they already pretty much own the full game already...
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Yo dawg, I heard you liked mining diamonds with diamonds so we put diamonds in your mine so you can mine with your diamonds while you mine your diamonds.
This. Guys, this is a ridiculous claim. Notch changed that clause because the alternative was that he promised to never make something so awesome and time consuming that it was worth paying for and actually getting money out of it. He changed it because the future is a mystical, mysterious thing, and you should never say never. He's not saying that he intends to make paid updates a thing - he's saying "I don't want to prohibit our company from ever doing them." He made the change last year. Do you guys think he had any concrete conception of what Minecraft would be like post-release, at the time? I bet if you said "enderdragon" to him, he'd say "end-wha?"
Maybe nothing will come of this little possibility. Maybe something will. Presumably Mojang will have to make a substantial piece of DLC to charge us for it.
It sucks when people misunderstands that. My friend haven't bought minecraft yet, I asked him why. And he said because he thought that he would have to pay for the full release as well as the beta.
I wonder if there is many other players who thinks the same...
It sucks when people misunderstands that. My friend haven't bought minecraft yet, I asked him why. And he said because he thought that he would have to pay for the full release as well as the beta.
I wonder if there is many other players who thinks the same...
You need to tell him that he'll get the full game but any possible major updates MIGHT cost money...a big MIGHT on that though because Notch has not stated anything as far as I know about DLC or making anyone pay for it.
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Yo dawg, I heard you liked mining diamonds with diamonds so we put diamonds in your mine so you can mine with your diamonds while you mine your diamonds.
You need to tell him that he'll get the full game but any possible major updates MIGHT cost money...a big MIGHT on that though because Notch has not stated anything as far as I know about DLC or making anyone pay for it.
Then it is his loss and when he complains about the price of the official game then you'll get to say 'I told you so' or something along that line.
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Yo dawg, I heard you liked mining diamonds with diamonds so we put diamonds in your mine so you can mine with your diamonds while you mine your diamonds.
I can't believe this MOTHER****ER!
The beta was even more expensive!
Why the **** is he doing this?
Isn't he rich anyway, because of so many 10, 15, and 20 Euros each who buy minecraft? :angry.gif:
That would suck if they try to fleece the beta buyers. I think Mojang is usually pretty generous though. Notch still throws in $2000 every Humble Indie Bundle and they mock TF2 crates. They don't seem like they're anti-gamer DLC loving accountants that's all.
So until it actually happens... this is all paranoid nightmares. Just chill out.
I don't mind if he has to delay the game to fix stuff but what bothers me is the people who get pissed off because he is fixing stuff faster now in a bid to make the deadline he set for the game.
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Yo dawg, I heard you liked mining diamonds with diamonds so we put diamonds in your mine so you can mine with your diamonds while you mine your diamonds.
Notch changed one bit in the license for beta users because his lawyers made him. The way it was previously worded could imply that people purchasing the game would get ANYTHING Minecraft-related that they ever developed, for free, forever. That's kinda bad, because it means that they could never do any kind of salable DLC.
I'm quite convinced that Mojang has no intention of trying to screw every MineCraft player out of their money, the way people like the OP are implying in their reactions to this. It was a change made to protect Mojang from totally screwing themselves, that's all. People really need to chill the hell out.
I'm sure that any updates to the game, even after release, minor or major, will still be free to beta players. Mojang just wants to be able to preserve the option to charge for things like optional DLC, and possibly huge "expansion packs" or something, which the alpha license would not allow the way it was worded.
In short, calm down. It's not the huge deal people are making it out to be.
as it clearly states that ONLY Alpha testers will get minecraft for free forever and that beta users will only get everything free up until the games official release.
False. It says beta buyers get everything up to release free, not that they only get everything up to release free.
I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet, But notch didn't remove the "You get free updates for life!" Thing for alpha players, The lawyers made him do that.
Second, I'm pretty sure updates, As in bug fixes and new fetures, Will be free for anyone who bought the game. ever.
If notch at some point makes something like spacecraft, Alpha players will get that for free, But no one else.
That's my view on it.
Notch and Jeb are humans. This is why they have put a ton of new features and not fixed many of the long standing bugs.
Bugs = very hard to fix, not fun at all to work on, developers slowly want to kill themselves after working on bug fixes for any length of time
New Features = Easier to do than bug fixing. Lots of fun. Developers want to rock out to awesome music and code like a bat out of hell when working on new features for any length of time
This is why minecraft gets new features a lot and bugs are squashed less quickly
Oh, I thought he said that anything people have to pay for in the future will be free for Alpha members. Can I see where he said the all updates, no matter what, will require being paid for?
I've seen many more recent posts and tweets from him, and I noticed that he seems to like the idea of selling capes more. Besides, there was absolutely no plan behind this.
Both of the statements are hypothetical. However, this post is much more recent a thus more likely to happen. Remember when Notch got the idea of making flaoting blocks require support from Obsidian? Same thing probably happened here.
is because the lawyers he hired were unhappy with how he worded it, and what the consequences were.
In the previous statement, it said that people would get all future versions for free, which would probably also include Minecraft 2 if it was ever produced. And I believe it is this they tried to remove from the license.
Obviously OP can't read as it clearly states that ONLY Alpha testers will get minecraft for free forever and that beta users will only get everything free up until the games official release.
Being an Alpha tester is like buying the collecter's eddition to a game but instead of getting a cute little mousepad and a book filled with game art the alpha testers will be getting all future updates for free for being the first ones to test the game and spread the news about it by word of mouth.
Personally I think it is fitting for the people who helped Notch push the game into beta and ultimately to completion get rewarded and really, Notch could have rewarded Alpha players with ANYTHING but he just happened to decide that it would be all future major content for free.
Not and Alpha user? Sorry, sucks to be you.
Checking if someone had the same thing I was going to say. You did. :smile.gif:
Maybe nothing will come of this little possibility. Maybe something will. Presumably Mojang will have to make a substantial piece of DLC to charge us for it.
I guess people are afraid of paying a couple of dollars extra every now and then for a great game even though they already pretty much own the full game already...
It sucks when people misunderstands that. My friend haven't bought minecraft yet, I asked him why. And he said because he thought that he would have to pay for the full release as well as the beta.
I wonder if there is many other players who thinks the same...
You need to tell him that he'll get the full game but any possible major updates MIGHT cost money...a big MIGHT on that though because Notch has not stated anything as far as I know about DLC or making anyone pay for it.
I have :wink.gif:
Then it is his loss and when he complains about the price of the official game then you'll get to say 'I told you so' or something along that line.
I can't believe this MOTHER****ER!
The beta was even more expensive!
Why the **** is he doing this?
Isn't he rich anyway, because of so many 10, 15, and 20 Euros each who buy minecraft? :angry.gif:
So until it actually happens... this is all paranoid nightmares. Just chill out.
I'm quite convinced that Mojang has no intention of trying to screw every MineCraft player out of their money, the way people like the OP are implying in their reactions to this. It was a change made to protect Mojang from totally screwing themselves, that's all. People really need to chill the hell out.
I'm sure that any updates to the game, even after release, minor or major, will still be free to beta players. Mojang just wants to be able to preserve the option to charge for things like optional DLC, and possibly huge "expansion packs" or something, which the alpha license would not allow the way it was worded.
In short, calm down. It's not the huge deal people are making it out to be.
False. It says beta buyers get everything up to release free, not that they only get everything up to release free.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxqQT3UvXkM
Second, I'm pretty sure updates, As in bug fixes and new fetures, Will be free for anyone who bought the game. ever.
If notch at some point makes something like spacecraft, Alpha players will get that for free, But no one else.
That's my view on it.
Remember: cannibalism is always an option.
Bugs = very hard to fix, not fun at all to work on, developers slowly want to kill themselves after working on bug fixes for any length of time
New Features = Easier to do than bug fixing. Lots of fun. Developers want to rock out to awesome music and code like a bat out of hell when working on new features for any length of time
This is why minecraft gets new features a lot and bugs are squashed less quickly