Hi guys, I am an admin at a school, but our troubles are from our internet being supplied by the local council and MC not authenticating to a proxy if it is available, with an added complexity of classic beibng website only.
we are starting up a games club at my school, and the biggest problem is that MC wont go through a proxy and thus the logical solution is to run a local/lan server. However the problem would be getting the kids connected. We can unblock the website but that is no good, as MC is unauthenticated and thus goes through our providers default proxy server. (no, they can't unblock it, as that would open it for every school/business in the area on the same connection)
My biggest worry is that the solution may border on what notch/mods consider piracy, in which case, close/delete away. However we can't help but feel some of the kids will benefit a lot from the creativity offered. Some of these kids are incredibly deprived so it would be their first lego type experience too (really, some are that bad).
So, is there a way to set up a server that will allow 10-20 kids on to creative mode without having to get the files (part of my piracy concern if we have to 'distribute' the art etc onto each pc manually) without making them sign up if possible (we can allow emails on/off at will but even signed up, the proxy will be a problem as the client still can't get through it)
We're not worried about them duping op names etc, as there will only be one set up when it's needed. So, thoughts people? Can this be done at all! I (and all the kids) would be immensly greatful if anybody can help us out.
I'm not going to go into details... I'll leave the research for you.
But create your own VPN, on the other end of the VPN have your own proxy server (like your home computer). You can use a program like hamachi for the VPN tunnel if you have that kind of access to the computers.
This is what I did when I was in school, I had full access to the internet and they couldn't see any of the data I was transferring (VPN=encrypted traffic). Though they will be able to see something strange going on, so don't think you can get away with it nandy dandy.
Another way is to just ask the IT administrator, that's also what I did I found this sweet little hole in pretty much any school's network. This is the way I would also suggest, as you won't get expelled.
I am the admin :wink.gif: sorry I will explain further, first by proxy, I do not mean a goto website, I mean a full real proxy server which is provided to us by KCN to connect us to their fibre network. Physically located inside our domain etc, I can unlock websites but they allow us little control over protocols, and even if they did, they way they have it set up, anything that does not go through our proxy authentication goes through their default settings (which is to block everything).
Because MC does not pick up the proxy it gets clean filtered out and becomes a no go. I could give a VPN a go as my home net is decent but my own home MC sever can only handle about 5-10 people and the increased lag would start getting messy, plus ideally there would be support for the maximum turnout of 30 pupils. Allowing hamachi would never be a good idea under any circumstances that I can iamgine. Even if most of them are tards some would work out what they could do and like anything fun, it'd spread like wildfire amongst the pupils.
My most ideal way would be to distribute to each needed PC an MSI with all the needed files and then skip the MC.net authentication part (I am only talking classic here) to allow anyone to join (from internally only). There is all this talk of certain settings 'could allow a hacker to gain access to your server' stuff, I presume we can't talk about that?
I would want to do this legit, it's a school funded project and there are no concerns over anyone getting fired or expelled etc. It'd be a shame to turn to some form of piracy to get the job done. Realistically a simple exe version of classic which can authenticate to our proxy/active directory is what I need, but a workaround would be fine.
we are starting up a games club at my school, and the biggest problem is that MC wont go through a proxy and thus the logical solution is to run a local/lan server. However the problem would be getting the kids connected. We can unblock the website but that is no good, as MC is unauthenticated and thus goes through our providers default proxy server. (no, they can't unblock it, as that would open it for every school/business in the area on the same connection)
My biggest worry is that the solution may border on what notch/mods consider piracy, in which case, close/delete away. However we can't help but feel some of the kids will benefit a lot from the creativity offered. Some of these kids are incredibly deprived so it would be their first lego type experience too (really, some are that bad).
So, is there a way to set up a server that will allow 10-20 kids on to creative mode without having to get the files (part of my piracy concern if we have to 'distribute' the art etc onto each pc manually) without making them sign up if possible (we can allow emails on/off at will but even signed up, the proxy will be a problem as the client still can't get through it)
We're not worried about them duping op names etc, as there will only be one set up when it's needed. So, thoughts people? Can this be done at all! I (and all the kids) would be immensly greatful if anybody can help us out.
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I'm not going to go into details... I'll leave the research for you.
But create your own VPN, on the other end of the VPN have your own proxy server (like your home computer). You can use a program like hamachi for the VPN tunnel if you have that kind of access to the computers.
This is what I did when I was in school, I had full access to the internet and they couldn't see any of the data I was transferring (VPN=encrypted traffic). Though they will be able to see something strange going on, so don't think you can get away with it nandy dandy.
Another way is to just ask the IT administrator, that's also what I did I found this sweet little hole in pretty much any school's network. This is the way I would also suggest, as you won't get expelled.
Because MC does not pick up the proxy it gets clean filtered out and becomes a no go. I could give a VPN a go as my home net is decent but my own home MC sever can only handle about 5-10 people and the increased lag would start getting messy, plus ideally there would be support for the maximum turnout of 30 pupils. Allowing hamachi would never be a good idea under any circumstances that I can iamgine. Even if most of them are tards some would work out what they could do and like anything fun, it'd spread like wildfire amongst the pupils.
My most ideal way would be to distribute to each needed PC an MSI with all the needed files and then skip the MC.net authentication part (I am only talking classic here) to allow anyone to join (from internally only). There is all this talk of certain settings 'could allow a hacker to gain access to your server' stuff, I presume we can't talk about that?
I would want to do this legit, it's a school funded project and there are no concerns over anyone getting fired or expelled etc. It'd be a shame to turn to some form of piracy to get the job done. Realistically a simple exe version of classic which can authenticate to our proxy/active directory is what I need, but a workaround would be fine.
I can offer some free map and save-file hosting, just PM me! 1GB/Unlimited Bandwidth/FTP Access. More on request!