I use stone half steps at the end so that if a short mob refuses to jump, the next one will bump it. I expect spiders may not fit if you use ladders; if so simply replace with signs and know that occasionally a pig may sit there for a while. Note you need to avoid blocks of waterfall with air or glass next to them, they push down too hard for mobs to swim up.
Also, dig the knowing nod from the pig near the end of the vid!
Wow, that's an interesting mechanic... I built a base far above a skeleton spawner, but it's so inconvenient to travel down there that I never collect the arrows from my trap. Going to see if I can make this work in my base.
I've been thinking about how you could possibly utilise this as a simple mob trap. If you add a layer of lava above like so (sticks = ladders)
then mobs should jump up out of the water and hit the lava untill they die, dropping their items into the water. Though I'm not sure how, you could make a water delivery system to collect the items from. Maybe the bottom would be like this
(water flows in some direction)
though I'm not sure if having flowing water at the bottom of the elevator would interfere with moving mobs up in the first place.
You don't need lava. I made an unintentional mob killer by making the water elevator too high. The intention was to kill them by fall damage from the top, but most died on the way up. I got the same results with a shorter tower by capping just above the water source with stone. I'm still working on the water currents to get the drops out. And how to deal with chickens.
I've been thinking about how you could possibly utilise this as a simple mob trap.
See http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=79899, which gave me the idea.
You can now make mobs go in any direction, so any trap can be used. If you want to move them very far upwards, simply use multiple elevators.
I was playing around with this today and was surprised at how well it works for hostile mobs in addition to animals. I had to make each lift 10 blocks as anything greater than 11 or so would cause them to start drowning and the survival rate wasn't very good after 4 lifts.
I'm still having a problem with the mobs getting stuck in the transitions though. I've tried various combinations of ladders and signs, but it almost seems as if they are getting stuck in the wall itself. I'm going to try different wall materials to see it that helps.
I'm still having a problem with the mobs getting stuck in the transitions though.
Have you included half steps next to the back wall? A player standing on them will drown, so I assumed any mob taller than a pig would start swimming up as soon as it was pushed onto the half steps.
Come to think of it...why not use STEPS-steps...time to test this with a proper game!
Update: this works very well. All of the tall mobs (creepers, skeletons, zombies) get sucked up pretty much instantaneously. I spent two minecraft nights without seeing any spiders or finding any in the mornings, so I went back to my spider spawner to try it there. Seems to work well with spiders as well but then they are trying to attack me, and I expect they are every bit as likely as pigs and chickens to sit on the steps for a while and think about things.
Speaking of chickens, THEY DIE!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
They just hover at the very bottom of the water and drown! They are ironically the only creature you can't get to go upwards.
Wow. The first ever chicken drowning trap. You have won. Who would have thought that it would have to work the other way round? Can you upload a vid of them drowning?
For it to be a trap, not an elevator, all that needs to be done is to seal off the top. I've an idea for the transitions, would this work?
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You might even be able to switch the stair with a sign if this works. This should suck up pigs and spiders earlier.
couldn't re simplify this by just making an extremely tall waterway? then at the very bottom is a duct to rewards to flow when they drop. or would that make pigs, chicken, and sheep slip down under?
edit: like hole out the bottom next to the halfblock/stair right at the shaft based on the post above me.
This thread gave me some ideas. While I have yet to work out a really good general mob trap, I did happen to put together a pretty good skeleton drowner about the time I found a convenient dungeon.
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Here's a side view. As skeletons are two blocks tall and try to walk on top of the water, their heads hit the water held up by the signs. Silly skeletons then try to swim to the top and drown even though only their heads are in the water. I originally had the water above the signs filled in two or three blocks higher, but experimentation showed this worked just fine. And it leaves their legs dangling down where I can watch them twitch as they drown. (This game is a bad influence on me.)
I use stone half steps at the end so that if a short mob refuses to jump, the next one will bump it. I expect spiders may not fit if you use ladders; if so simply replace with signs and know that occasionally a pig may sit there for a while. Note you need to avoid blocks of waterfall with air or glass next to them, they push down too hard for mobs to swim up.
Also, dig the knowing nod from the pig near the end of the vid!
....halp meh
Hello Mr. Sssssss , going up ?
Why?
Why did you do this?
which escape those who dream only by night.
- Edgar Allan Poe
do the work —
and what’s the Work?
To ease the pain of living.
Everything else, drunken
dumbshow." — Allen Ginsburg
The New Boat Elevator
Simple Drowning Trap
Complex Drowning Trap
Note Blocks - The Blue Danube
Minecart Rider Detection System
What do you mean it doesn't work? - Flint Generator
Once upon a time in Minecraft... - The Three Little Pigs
Ready! Set! Go! - Speedboat Racecourse
Look out below! - Death From Above
He hacked it to spawn pigs.
"Oh goodness me."
then mobs should jump up out of the water and hit the lava untill they die, dropping their items into the water. Though I'm not sure how, you could make a water delivery system to collect the items from. Maybe the bottom would be like this
(water flows in some direction)
though I'm not sure if having flowing water at the bottom of the elevator would interfere with moving mobs up in the first place.
What do you mean it doesn't work? - Flint Generator
Once upon a time in Minecraft... - The Three Little Pigs
Ready! Set! Go! - Speedboat Racecourse
Look out below! - Death From Above
Yes, I use 'efficient' as a euphemism. It means 'Efficient at killing in a way that scares the **** out of me'
The National Socialist of minecraftforums, since 2010!
See http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=79899, which gave me the idea.
You can now make mobs go in any direction, so any trap can be used. If you want to move them very far upwards, simply use multiple elevators.
I'm still having a problem with the mobs getting stuck in the transitions though. I've tried various combinations of ladders and signs, but it almost seems as if they are getting stuck in the wall itself. I'm going to try different wall materials to see it that helps.
First test version.
Lava trap at the top of the pictured tower below.
Second test version, 5 lifts.
Have you included half steps next to the back wall? A player standing on them will drown, so I assumed any mob taller than a pig would start swimming up as soon as it was pushed onto the half steps.
Come to think of it...why not use STEPS-steps...time to test this with a proper game!
Update: this works very well. All of the tall mobs (creepers, skeletons, zombies) get sucked up pretty much instantaneously. I spent two minecraft nights without seeing any spiders or finding any in the mornings, so I went back to my spider spawner to try it there. Seems to work well with spiders as well but then they are trying to attack me, and I expect they are every bit as likely as pigs and chickens to sit on the steps for a while and think about things.
Speaking of chickens, THEY DIE!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
They just hover at the very bottom of the water and drown! They are ironically the only creature you can't get to go upwards.
Update the second: I had another idea.
For it to be a trap, not an elevator, all that needs to be done is to seal off the top. I've an idea for the transitions, would this work?
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You might even be able to switch the stair with a sign if this works. This should suck up pigs and spiders earlier.
The New Boat Elevator
Simple Drowning Trap
Complex Drowning Trap
Note Blocks - The Blue Danube
Minecart Rider Detection System
edit: like hole out the bottom next to the halfblock/stair right at the shaft based on the post above me.
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[>>-i>]
Here's a side view. As skeletons are two blocks tall and try to walk on top of the water, their heads hit the water held up by the signs. Silly skeletons then try to swim to the top and drown even though only their heads are in the water. I originally had the water above the signs filled in two or three blocks higher, but experimentation showed this worked just fine. And it leaves their legs dangling down where I can watch them twitch as they drown. (This game is a bad influence on me.)