I would just like to say that. Anyone that joins will be, and stay completely Anonymous. Your threats do not scare me.
Threats? I have made no threats, I have simply informed you of what will happen. Players have names, unless you're all using alternate accounts then you're far from anonymous - even then we can cross check IP addresses.
Drop Dead. They will not, and cannot be punished. CitricSquid, my dear friend... You are a nobody.
Maybe so, maybe I am nobody but you fail to realise minecraft is massively community orientated. If you and a bunch of users go around griefing because you think you're doing some sort of service for users and get caught the majority of this community will add you to their ban lists. Then what? You're banned from most servers meaning your "plan" has backfired.
I don't see how you think for any second that this is a "noble" or "worthy" cause, it's just you trying to get your own back. It's that simple and it won't work. Stop trying to justify your own griefing.
Well, it's been fun trading insults... People who are serious should come to Team Grief. I'm done here. I have work to do.
How do you validate the claims? Surely I can tell you xx user is griefing and then you go and grief their stuff when they didn't actually do any griefing. Then what?
Well, it's been fun trading insults... People who are serious should come to Team Grief. I'm done here. I have work to do.
How do you validate the claims? Surely I can tell you xx user is griefing and then you go and grief their stuff when they didn't actually do any griefing. Then what?
Well, it's been fun trading insults... People who are serious should come to Team Grief. I'm done here. I have work to do.
How do you validate the claims? Surely I can tell you xx user is griefing and then you go and grief their stuff when they didn't actually do any griefing. Then what?
We need proof. e.g. pictures, video;
I can't wait until someone griefs their own server has someone else videotape it, they give it to you, then they frame you for griefing their server and videotape it then it gets spread around.
How do you validate the claims? Surely I can tell you xx user is griefing and then you go and grief their stuff when they didn't actually do any griefing. Then what?
We need proof. e.g. pictures, video;
I can't wait until someone griefs their own server has someone else videotape it, they give it to you, then they frame you for griefing their server and videotape it then it gets spread around.
And thus goes to show, video evidence can be fake.
I hope they realize most griefers don't run servers in the first place, and those that do are probably smart enough to make the entire thing all admin blocks in the first place. I'm just going to go ahead and use your own words here, but:
I think it's funny that someone actually griefed us... I have backups. I'm not ****ing retarded...
This will be, assuredly, the same excuse the server owner/griefer will have in the first place. Now, I don't blame you for starting this up, you can't imagine how badly I hate griefers (after witnessing a rogue op/griefer take down an entire server to it's knees, and then a mass griefing at yet another server I'm in 3 times for falling and coming back again, and then strolling around random servers only to find them completely amassed with grief, and there are some servers that really, really do merit a good revenge grief) but this won't be an effective solution. Three reasons:
1. You'll only be spreading what you're trying to stop, honestly. Think about it, you're convincing griefers to join your server and join up in attacking other servers. How can you be so sure you can trust those griefers in the first place? How can you insure they won't turn your back on you and start griefing other servers (even your own)?
2. False claims. I've read through this thread and you've said that you need video evidence (or log evidence) for that matter. I only know of one person who set up a video showing griefers (and another showing of hackers), and anyone can make up logs at their will, all it takes is imagination and shrewd cleverness and you'll be taking down a non-griefers server by accident (just to add a twist to the tale, it could even be a griefer that's ordering you to grief in the first place).
3. Out-gunned. From what I've seen so far, you don't use scripts or anything. All you do is just come into a server and grief-revenge it. Just add an effective spawn prison. Anyone can tell when a mass griefing could occur if waves of people enter at the same time. All they have to do is I.P. ban them all. Anonymous, you say? Can never be punished? Someone's being a bit too prideful of their club and not being aware of it. Striking fear into their hearts won't work, because this is the internet. Icing on the cake would be what citricsquid (shouldn't have, because no matter how bad the server, you shouldn't grief because you'll show hypocrisy to the masses) demonstrated, any 2-bit hacker(s) could take down this operation. What's stopping other people to do the same as you, or something similar and more malicious? And what if it was aimed at you? I mean yeah, you could refer to the quote at the top, but then again, so would they. And so would everyone else. Logic's a *****, ain't it?
You'll basically be leading a never-ending battle against the biggest threat you cannot stop until 2 things occur in this scenario, and that is either you just get bored and give it up and retire, or the game stops being free and turns beta. And since you're pretty persistent about your goals here, I might as well bank for the latter. I doubt you'll ever make some actual good with such an idea, but in the event that you do, good luck with that.
Oh, and nice pictures up there. "HURR DURR. I TOOK PICTURES OF A GRIEFED SERVER. LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!1111"
Threats? I have made no threats, I have simply informed you of what will happen. Players have names, unless you're all using alternate accounts then you're far from anonymous - even then we can cross check IP addresses.
Maybe so, maybe I am nobody but you fail to realise minecraft is massively community orientated. If you and a bunch of users go around griefing because you think you're doing some sort of service for users and get caught the majority of this community will add you to their ban lists. Then what? You're banned from most servers meaning your "plan" has backfired.
I don't see how you think for any second that this is a "noble" or "worthy" cause, it's just you trying to get your own back. It's that simple and it won't work. Stop trying to justify your own griefing.
Wow... Fail period. I meant nothing about his Minecraft Status, but what he believes in. Sorry for the miss-communication.
How do you validate the claims? Surely I can tell you xx user is griefing and then you go and grief their stuff when they didn't actually do any griefing. Then what?
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We need proof. e.g. pictures, video;
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I can't wait until someone griefs their own server has someone else videotape it, they give it to you, then they frame you for griefing their server and videotape it then it gets spread around.
And thus goes to show, video evidence can be fake.
Former #minecraft channel operator.
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This will be, assuredly, the same excuse the server owner/griefer will have in the first place. Now, I don't blame you for starting this up, you can't imagine how badly I hate griefers (after witnessing a rogue op/griefer take down an entire server to it's knees, and then a mass griefing at yet another server I'm in 3 times for falling and coming back again, and then strolling around random servers only to find them completely amassed with grief, and there are some servers that really, really do merit a good revenge grief) but this won't be an effective solution. Three reasons:
1. You'll only be spreading what you're trying to stop, honestly. Think about it, you're convincing griefers to join your server and join up in attacking other servers. How can you be so sure you can trust those griefers in the first place? How can you insure they won't turn your back on you and start griefing other servers (even your own)?
2. False claims. I've read through this thread and you've said that you need video evidence (or log evidence) for that matter. I only know of one person who set up a video showing griefers (and another showing of hackers), and anyone can make up logs at their will, all it takes is imagination and shrewd cleverness and you'll be taking down a non-griefers server by accident (just to add a twist to the tale, it could even be a griefer that's ordering you to grief in the first place).
3. Out-gunned. From what I've seen so far, you don't use scripts or anything. All you do is just come into a server and grief-revenge it. Just add an effective spawn prison. Anyone can tell when a mass griefing could occur if waves of people enter at the same time. All they have to do is I.P. ban them all. Anonymous, you say? Can never be punished? Someone's being a bit too prideful of their club and not being aware of it. Striking fear into their hearts won't work, because this is the internet. Icing on the cake would be what citricsquid (shouldn't have, because no matter how bad the server, you shouldn't grief because you'll show hypocrisy to the masses) demonstrated, any 2-bit hacker(s) could take down this operation. What's stopping other people to do the same as you, or something similar and more malicious? And what if it was aimed at you? I mean yeah, you could refer to the quote at the top, but then again, so would they. And so would everyone else. Logic's a *****, ain't it?
You'll basically be leading a never-ending battle against the biggest threat you cannot stop until 2 things occur in this scenario, and that is either you just get bored and give it up and retire, or the game stops being free and turns beta. And since you're pretty persistent about your goals here, I might as well bank for the latter. I doubt you'll ever make some actual good with such an idea, but in the event that you do, good luck with that.