Am I the only one that thought the nether, the main feature of the update, was a major letdown?
I think zombie pigmen are the worst part. They are relatively easy to kill, and cooked bacon makes survival even easier. Ghasts are fun though. But I was expecting more ass kicking, block destroying, fast moving, etc mobs. I honestly feel safer in the nether then I do in the normal world (at night).
However, I have no reason to go to the nether. Only thing remotely interesting in there is the slowsand (it combines nicely with cactus ^.^), and I guess in some scenarios the lightstone would be useful too. But lightstone is so inefficient! The bloodstone is nice because it never stops burning, but logs do the same thing for the most part. And there's always the fast travel purpose, but I walk a decent distance and I end up half way across the damn world. Not fun.
Hell should feel more like endgame content. I shouldnt be safe behind my glass wall. I want ghasts to spew explosives that can destroy more than bloodstone, and I want rare ores that are found in hell that I can do fancy things with, And I want more mobs.Namely hell creepers. They blow up even if you kill them. And they fly. And there big. And red.
Well, some of us have actually built so much that Nether travel IS useful. Say, we've cleared out the entire underground looking for ores. We've spread torches just about all over the place, so no mobs attack us. We're BORED with out current land, but we like what we've achieved, so we don't want to just start a new world. We want MORE STUFF, and traveling beyond the edges of our territory and back just takes too long for it to be productive.
Tadaa. Nether.
Listen. If you're not happy with the Nether, don't use it. Minecraft is a very open-minded type of game...even if you think the Nether is safer at night and you dislike that, then DON'T GO INTO THE NETHER AT NIGHT.
It's really pretty simple.
And for the rest of us, we like the Nether. So let Notch do his thing.
...and yeah, Notch is NOT done working on the Nether, at all. He just laid down the groundwork during Halloween. It's not over yet.
What do you want Notch to do? Take it out? That makes people who DO like it angry. If you don't want it, don't take it.
In conclusion, I like trains.
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Well I have yet to collect my third diamond so I don't have much say, but I think that it could use another realy annoying mob, like a ghast creeper, or a skeleton riding a ghast. Some thing harder and more difficult to fight.
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I was the second person to use the avatar I have. The rest took it from me. The first I asked, he said yes.
I know what I'm doing. I plan ahead, or get tired and screw up everything.
Anyhow, you STILL don't need diamond to make a portal. Obsidian, thankfully, can be CREATED, instead of mined. Just make a mold, get some lava and water, and get to work. Lava is easier to locate than Diamond ever will be.
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Anyhow, you STILL don't need diamond to make a portal. Obsidian, thankfully, can be CREATED, instead of mined. Just make a mold, get some lava and water, and get to work. Lava is easier to locate than Diamond ever will be.
This is debatable. I've found 8 diamond, and never any lava. EVER! I pretty much just gave up on getting to the nether at all.
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I was once mining out some iron, and the lava
fell in me.
But I lost 120 pounds in 4 seconds thanks to Lava!
[Notch] Before
[Skeleton] After!
Lava can be a pain to find, however, when found, usually comes in mass amounts.
Anywho, I do think the nether is a bit easy. I think that ghast bombs are way to easy to doge, if you just keep moving then they won't hit you. If you stay still you can hit them back. Simple. I think monsters shooting up out of the ground or something would be awesome. When notch said he "fixed" the glitch where pigmen spam sounds when they catch on fire, I was dissapointed, as this made the sound of the nether much scarier than the sound of fire.
The nether is not finished, but i do agree to a point.
At the moment i dont go to the nether at all, unless i rly want some lightstone for around a special area. or for lava.
lava is now easy to get :wink.gif: Ill just get like 8 buckets and go pick up the lava and run back to the world and ill have the lava for like iron or what not
This is debatable. I've found 8 diamond, and never any lava. EVER! I pretty much just gave up on getting to the nether at all.
You're not looking in the right place, then. A few blocks above adminium, there are lava lakes. They're not continuous, but they're common enough. Go into a cave and just keep going deeper. If you build a vertical shaft going down to adminium when you're in a cave, you'll likely find deeper parts of the cave system, and eventually a part of the cave that has lava everywhere. You can dig mines all you want and never see lava, because you're digging through solid stone, but caves are where it's at.
If you think pigmen are easy to kill get on the floor and fight them with a sword against a colony!
Last time I went to the Nether I had it on peaceful, didn't wanna risk it with a steal sword, no bow, and no armor. I maybe should make myself armor and a bow and get the hell down to hell.
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wooow you idiot notch is not finished with hell or the halloween update for that matter hes going to be changing alot of things in the coming updates with hell and the halloween update he wasnt finished with the update so hes going to be adding new things to make it even scarier etc
Source?
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What do you want Notch to do? Take it out? That makes people who DO like it angry. If you don't want it, don't take it.
Absolutely not. I dislike the sense of security I shouldn't, however do have in the nether. I want it to feel dangerous.
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If you think pigmen are easy to kill get on the floor and fight them with a sword against a colony!
I think you are all missing the point Gladosexe is trying to make... Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of having the Nether. But the point Gladosexe is trying to make is the update was useless for him. He obviously had much higher expectations. And I would have to agree that it is incredibly boring down there and there is not much use for it in my world's other than travelling to a very far undiscovered place quicker. Hopefully in coming updates Notch will make Nether more worthwhile and interesting.
I think zombie pigmen are the worst part. They are relatively easy to kill, and cooked bacon makes survival even easier. Ghasts are fun though. But I was expecting more ass kicking, block destroying, fast moving, etc mobs. I honestly feel safer in the nether then I do in the normal world (at night).
However, I have no reason to go to the nether. Only thing remotely interesting in there is the slowsand (it combines nicely with cactus ^.^), and I guess in some scenarios the lightstone would be useful too. But lightstone is so inefficient! The bloodstone is nice because it never stops burning, but logs do the same thing for the most part. And there's always the fast travel purpose, but I walk a decent distance and I end up half way across the damn world. Not fun.
Hell should feel more like endgame content. I shouldnt be safe behind my glass wall. I want ghasts to spew explosives that can destroy more than bloodstone, and I want rare ores that are found in hell that I can do fancy things with, And I want more mobs.
Namely hell creepers. They blow up even if you kill them. And they fly. And there big. And red.So uh, tl;dr, hell isnt scary, hell isnt useful
Well, some of us have actually built so much that Nether travel IS useful. Say, we've cleared out the entire underground looking for ores. We've spread torches just about all over the place, so no mobs attack us. We're BORED with out current land, but we like what we've achieved, so we don't want to just start a new world. We want MORE STUFF, and traveling beyond the edges of our territory and back just takes too long for it to be productive.
Tadaa. Nether.
Listen. If you're not happy with the Nether, don't use it. Minecraft is a very open-minded type of game...even if you think the Nether is safer at night and you dislike that, then DON'T GO INTO THE NETHER AT NIGHT.
It's really pretty simple.
And for the rest of us, we like the Nether. So let Notch do his thing.
...and yeah, Notch is NOT done working on the Nether, at all. He just laid down the groundwork during Halloween. It's not over yet.
What do you want Notch to do? Take it out? That makes people who DO like it angry. If you don't want it, don't take it.
In conclusion, I like trains.
I was the second person to use the avatar I have. The rest took it from me. The first I asked, he said yes.
I know what I'm doing. I plan ahead, or get tired and screw up everything.
Anyhow, you STILL don't need diamond to make a portal. Obsidian, thankfully, can be CREATED, instead of mined. Just make a mold, get some lava and water, and get to work. Lava is easier to locate than Diamond ever will be.
This is debatable. I've found 8 diamond, and never any lava. EVER! I pretty much just gave up on getting to the nether at all.
Anywho, I do think the nether is a bit easy. I think that ghast bombs are way to easy to doge, if you just keep moving then they won't hit you. If you stay still you can hit them back. Simple. I think monsters shooting up out of the ground or something would be awesome. When notch said he "fixed" the glitch where pigmen spam sounds when they catch on fire, I was dissapointed, as this made the sound of the nether much scarier than the sound of fire.
But yeah, the Nether isn't finished.
At the moment i dont go to the nether at all, unless i rly want some lightstone for around a special area. or for lava.
lava is now easy to get :wink.gif: Ill just get like 8 buckets and go pick up the lava and run back to the world and ill have the lava for like iron or what not
You're not looking in the right place, then. A few blocks above adminium, there are lava lakes. They're not continuous, but they're common enough. Go into a cave and just keep going deeper. If you build a vertical shaft going down to adminium when you're in a cave, you'll likely find deeper parts of the cave system, and eventually a part of the cave that has lava everywhere. You can dig mines all you want and never see lava, because you're digging through solid stone, but caves are where it's at.
Did you know you can leave the corners off of the frame of the teleporter?
Last time I went to the Nether I had it on peaceful, didn't wanna risk it with a steal sword, no bow, and no armor. I maybe should make myself armor and a bow and get the hell down to hell.
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Absolutely not. I dislike the sense of security I shouldn't, however do have in the nether. I want it to feel dangerous.
I have. Incredibly easy.
Back in my day, sheep dropped brown mushrooms, and by golly we... Hated it, pretty much.
all the more reason for this thread. It is good to voice concerns so notch knows what to tackle next.
orly? hm... oh look! it says "alpha"! i thought it said "beta" up there! huh! figures...