Lots and lots of Hoppers everywhere. Mostly being used for collecting and pipelines.
Currently only the Tree Farm and Mine are connected all the way down to the lowest level factory, but I'll probably hook the pie farm up to it as well.
With hoppers still being WIP for their graphic in the inventory I see no problem with how they look as a WIP (work in progress) block. Give it a few more snapshots and they may look nicer.
As for the OP, looks good. It's definately something I'm going ot be looking into over the next few days.
Also remember this is the survival forum not the recent updates forum so many of us can't fully appreciate what you're pictures are depicting because we aren't playing the snapshot.
Hoppers are currently kind of risky to use in survival, if you don't want to cheat, because it is currently very easy to duplicate items using multiple hoppers, even by accident. All an item has to do is land on the side/corner of the hopper and it will start to duplicate. I'm waiting till they fix that before I even consider using hoppers
Hoppers are currently kind of risky to use in survival, if you don't want to cheat, because it is currently very easy to duplicate items using multiple hoppers, even by accident. All an item has to do is land on the side/corner of the hopper and it will start to duplicate. I'm waiting till they fix that before I even consider using hoppers
Yeah, tree farm gives some issues. I have to run around collecting any items that fall to the side. The shorter pipes for the auto-farms are so full that it doesn't even matter.
Interesting I didn't know you could string them together to make actual pipes. Does this only work downward though?
Nope, it works in every direction except up. In my opinion they should just add pipes themselves because a line of hoppers looks so ugly and if they perform the same function as a pipe why not just add pipe purely for aesthetics? I dunno, that's just my opinion
I just noticed, hoppers are the perfect kitchen-sink It's like one of those american sinks, which you throw your trash into and it cuts it to pieces and then goes down the drain
A garbage disposal? I guess, but usually you can't actually see the pipes going down, they are hidden in cabinets, if only we could put trapdoors in front of the disposals...
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ragnarock200: awesome, are those things with the creeper faces pistons or furnaces
Snowey1994: There dispensers
Nope, it works in every direction except up. In my opinion they should just add pipes themselves because a line of hoppers looks so ugly and if they perform the same function as a pipe why not just add pipe purely for aesthetics? I dunno, that's just my opinion
Bad idea, I personally think they need to remove the hoppers being able to be chained together like that because it just brings the question back around: What the hell are chest carts useful for. I have no problem with them going into the side, but I think that they shouldn't be able to feed into each other, only other blocks with an inventory. This would force the hopper chain to go down and you would be forced to use chest carts to bring the items back up, and due to minecraft being voxel-based (taxicab geometry) you could have just used rails to keep it at same level in the first place and have it arrive faster.
EDIT: The other idea i had just came up with is to modify the recipe of the hopper to iron ingots instead of stone, then making huge lines of hoppers is unpractical for the cost vs rails. 11 iron + 1 chest = move 16 blocks. 10 iron and 2 chests = move 2 blocks. Huge disincentive for long hopper lines.
Bad idea, I personally think they need to remove the hoppers being able to be chained together like that because it just brings the question back around: What the hell are chest carts useful for. I have no problem with them going into the side, but I think that they shouldn't be able to feed into each other, only other blocks with an inventory. This would force the hopper chain to go down and you would be forced to use chest carts to bring the items back up, and due to minecraft being voxel-based (taxicab geometry) you could have just used rails to keep it at same level in the first place and have it arrive faster.
EDIT: The other idea i had just came up with is to modify the recipe of the hopper to iron ingots instead of stone, then making huge lines of hoppers is unpractical for the cost vs rails. 11 iron + 1 chest = move 16 blocks. 10 iron and 2 chests = move 2 blocks. Huge disincentive for long hopper lines.
Hopper lines can be used for more compact designs. If you just want to transfer items down, for example, it takes a considerably larger amount of space to make a minecart go all the way down, then all the way back up.
Minecarts have their uses that hoppers can't imitate, though. You can use hoppers to transfer items to a far away cache, yes, but retrieving that cache can be the job of the minecarts. Perhaps you use hopper lines to feed a cart in a storage system, but you later want to retrieve your banked materials, and use an old fashioned minecart bank to get it out. The benefit of hoppers, here, is that you can have multiple input lines, meaning you could link a mineshaft dropbox to your base's storage unit without needing to construct an entirely new unit.
It all really depends on how you aesthetically like things though. Yea, you could just have a whole bunch of stationary chests in your base connected to hoppers, but that's all choice.
Hopper lines can be used for more compact designs. If you just want to transfer items down, for example, it takes a considerably larger amount of space to make a minecart go all the way down, then all the way back up.
Minecarts have their uses that hoppers can't imitate, though. You can use hoppers to transfer items to a far away cache, yes, but retrieving that cache can be the job of the minecarts. Perhaps you use hopper lines to feed a cart in a storage system, but you later want to retrieve your banked materials, and use an old fashioned minecart bank to get it out. The benefit of hoppers, here, is that you can have multiple input lines, meaning you could link a mineshaft dropbox to your base's storage unit without needing to construct an entirely new unit.
It all really depends on how you aesthetically like things though. Yea, you could just have a whole bunch of stationary chests in your base connected to hoppers, but that's all choice.
I have no issue with hoppers connecting to each other downward, they "use" gravity to move objects around. Just like you could toss your stuff down a hole in the ground with a hopper at the bottom feeding into a chest(cart). The issue I have is that hopper-lines completely revert any use chestcarts had before.
If you are talking about regulating when items get fed to the chest cart for it to bring back, a dispenser and hopper-line can do the exact same thing. Rails have multiple inputs as well, that's why they can connect to each other. If you don't like that, just have a hopper with a rail on it at the nexus of your intersections and have that feed into another chestcart that ferries those items back to your cache. This is still achievable all without hopper lines.
I agree with Owl, on how you can drop stuff off and it be sent to a depot, then you call it up at a depot a delivery cart wheels in. What would be useful, is if instead of a hopper, you have a block that picks up stuff, a block that drops stuff, and a short-range piping system. That way you can send a minecart with stuff in it, it could be stopped, and its contents unloaded and sent to a chest depot, and then you can call up a cart and it pull your stuff out. You could even set up railways where your minecarts are sent to different unloads based on different buttons you could press. It could create a large scale banking system.
Nope, it works in every direction except up. In my opinion they should just add pipes themselves because a line of hoppers looks so ugly and if they perform the same function as a pipe why not just add pipe purely for aesthetics? I dunno, that's just my opinion
Yes, buildcraft mod styled (but simpler) vanilla pipes would be nice. You could also power them to make items go through them faster and be able to go up. the power would go through them for a ways like powered rails. Or maybe you would have normal pipes and powered pipes? They could do that many ways.
I just noticed, hoppers are the perfect kitchen-sink It's like one of those american sinks, which you throw your trash into and it cuts it to pieces and then goes down the drain
A garbage disposal? I guess, but usually you can't actually see the pipes going down, they are hidden in cabinets, if only we could put trapdoors in front of the disposals...
Signs could work for that =) would look kinda ghetto, but hey.
Lots and lots of Hoppers everywhere. Mostly being used for collecting and pipelines.
Currently only the Tree Farm and Mine are connected all the way down to the lowest level factory, but I'll probably hook the pie farm up to it as well.
As for the OP, looks good. It's definately something I'm going ot be looking into over the next few days.
Also remember this is the survival forum not the recent updates forum so many of us can't fully appreciate what you're pictures are depicting because we aren't playing the snapshot.
by c0yote
I tried it with terrible results. I gave my wife my glasses for a second, a creeper showed up and now my wife is pregnant.
Stupid 3D..
A line of them hooked together to carry materials along. Like I can deposit something in a hopper at the tree farm and have it show up down below.
Can do something similar with water streams, but don't have any storage capacity.
Yeah, tree farm gives some issues. I have to run around collecting any items that fall to the side. The shorter pipes for the auto-farms are so full that it doesn't even matter.
Interesting I didn't know you could string them together to make actual pipes. Does this only work downward though?
by c0yote
I tried it with terrible results. I gave my wife my glasses for a second, a creeper showed up and now my wife is pregnant.
Stupid 3D..
Nope, it works in every direction except up. In my opinion they should just add pipes themselves because a line of hoppers looks so ugly and if they perform the same function as a pipe why not just add pipe purely for aesthetics? I dunno, that's just my opinion
A garbage disposal? I guess, but usually you can't actually see the pipes going down, they are hidden in cabinets, if only we could put trapdoors in front of the disposals...
Snowey1994: There dispensers
Bad idea, I personally think they need to remove the hoppers being able to be chained together like that because it just brings the question back around: What the hell are chest carts useful for. I have no problem with them going into the side, but I think that they shouldn't be able to feed into each other, only other blocks with an inventory. This would force the hopper chain to go down and you would be forced to use chest carts to bring the items back up, and due to minecraft being voxel-based (taxicab geometry) you could have just used rails to keep it at same level in the first place and have it arrive faster.
EDIT: The other idea i had just came up with is to modify the recipe of the hopper to iron ingots instead of stone, then making huge lines of hoppers is unpractical for the cost vs rails. 11 iron + 1 chest = move 16 blocks. 10 iron and 2 chests = move 2 blocks. Huge disincentive for long hopper lines.
Minecarts have their uses that hoppers can't imitate, though. You can use hoppers to transfer items to a far away cache, yes, but retrieving that cache can be the job of the minecarts. Perhaps you use hopper lines to feed a cart in a storage system, but you later want to retrieve your banked materials, and use an old fashioned minecart bank to get it out. The benefit of hoppers, here, is that you can have multiple input lines, meaning you could link a mineshaft dropbox to your base's storage unit without needing to construct an entirely new unit.
It all really depends on how you aesthetically like things though. Yea, you could just have a whole bunch of stationary chests in your base connected to hoppers, but that's all choice.
I have no issue with hoppers connecting to each other downward, they "use" gravity to move objects around. Just like you could toss your stuff down a hole in the ground with a hopper at the bottom feeding into a chest(cart). The issue I have is that hopper-lines completely revert any use chestcarts had before.
If you are talking about regulating when items get fed to the chest cart for it to bring back, a dispenser and hopper-line can do the exact same thing. Rails have multiple inputs as well, that's why they can connect to each other. If you don't like that, just have a hopper with a rail on it at the nexus of your intersections and have that feed into another chestcart that ferries those items back to your cache. This is still achievable all without hopper lines.
Shift placing a hopper onto a hopper onto a hopper...
It takes a while to go very far, but its useful for short distances.
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Signs could work for that =) would look kinda ghetto, but hey.
A 3x1 shaft with some room for some redstone wiring at the bottom can make a vertical dropper system
I just have a hopper leading into a dropper with a stack on top of it and then have chets at top
The only hard bit is getting a circuit that sends a rapid on/off state when activated but not hard to set up.
Once the rapid system is linked to a switch to activate it the droppers are activated by 2 redstone torch block/torch/block columns on either side
Only downisde is the sound of the activating droppers
I haven't but you could even use a trapped chest to turn the system off when done etc