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The idea is very well fleshed out, but one thing bugs me.

The necro-doll seems like it's "Well, that's good, I got necromancy. Now I never have to pick that thing up again". I don't like that.

BUT. I have a solution. Make it so you can sticker Necro-dolls onto books to make "Tomes" (for lack of a better name. Necro-book seemed kind of lame, and necronomicon seemed over the top). 4 books and 4 paper crafted with 1 necro-doll (obviously with the necro-doll in the middle of the grid) would yield 4 tomes. Tomes would use a similar texture to a book, with a black cover and red "words" on it.

But, what would these objects of Tome-y-ness do, you ask? Well, considering the Necromancer's table, tomes should be able to be crafted into Tomeshelves (in the same way that bookshelves are crafted, with tomes replacing books (Herpaderpa). They would look like darker coloured bookshelves) which could be placed around a necromancer's table, improving the table's power.

The table would be improved by allowing different mobs to be made (it seems OP that you can have any mob straight away, I think it should begin with just Zombie and Skeleton). So:

0 Shelves= Skeleton, Zombie.
1 Shelf= Zombie pigman, spider.
2 Shelves= Slime, *Magma cube*, Creeper.
4 Shelves= Enderman, Ghast, Blaze.

Considering the rarity of necro-dolls, 4 shelves seems like a good enough maximum (requiring you to have found 3 extra dolls)


But, my idea isn't necessary if necro-dolls are required in the 'new' mob crafting GUI idea is used (but it seems kind of wasteful on the dolls, so I don't like it).

EDIT: Another use for the necro-doll could be that you need to right click your minions with it to perform special actions (such as the Enderman's grabbing, and the Creeper's exploding).

I like the idea, but...i don't know....it just doesn't seem right in Vanilla MC. Maybe this could be a great mod, but personally i wouldn't be to stoked if it was added in vanilla MC. But, i do have to say, that is a great idea. Wouldn't have thought of that (or made it as in-depth as you have).

Okay. I like it. But make every resurruction cost at least 60 levels.

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This is actually a good idea. It's obvious you put a lot of time and effort into it, most details have been covered, and it isn't too OP (although it does make taming wolves slightly obsolete).
I would suggest lowering the level you need to ressurect them, but so that they have less health than normal.
Also, would these ressurected mobs give normal mob drops, or would they drop nothing (save armour / weapons that they are carrying)?

Personally, I think it would be better if instead of ressurecting them using a drop from them, you collect their 'soul' in a bottle.
You know how when mobs die, they give off some smoke particles? Well, howsabout if switching to an empty bottle and right-clicking the smoke before it disappears 'traps the soul' which you then use to ressurect the mob. Maybe you would need the soul as well as the items, so you're combining the body and the soul.. That kind of makes sense? Good idea for soul catching?

Resurrected mobs, when killed, drop the necro doll they were made from, as well as any armor/weapons they were wearing/holding, nothing else though.


Also, the resurrecting via a single item was dropped in favor of a more in depth crafting system.

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So would they become you're friends after resurrection?

Yes!

And you can have a cute little pet slime too! :3

Please someone make this mod! I've been looking for a good necromancy mod for a while. I found a good one but it wasn't updated. This mod seems really cool and I would love to have. Continue with this! You get diamonds!

This idea is definitely well thought out, and you put a lot of time into it. But there are a couple things I find odd about it. Such as the doll being a rare drop, but you made it seem as though you need one to craft the book/table and you need a second one to revive the mob... Maybe another alternative instead of trying to get this item to drop?

I can't say I agree with anyone who said it would make a great mod. I think, as long as it isn't too overpowering and stealing the spotlight from the intentions of the rest of the game, this would make a great addition to minecraft. You have my support!

Great idea. No, seriously, I love it. Great presentation and I love the idea.

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Usually when someone suggests something such as necromancy, as in an RPG element, the idea is terrible or the OP just says: "Do yew thunk that dis wood be kewl?"

This is nothing like that, the entire concept is flawless, only thing I'd like to see changed is the recipe for crafting a blaze. The only reason I have for this is the general ease of acquiring many blaze rods at a time, as opposed to the other mob crafting recipes which require materials which aren't only mob drops.

I think if the blaze recipe is going to be changed it should instead of the blaze powder use either: a fire charge or: a flint and steel.

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Usually when someone suggests something such as necromancy, as in an RPG element, the idea is terrible or the OP just says: "Do yew thunk that dis wood be kewl?"

This is nothing like that, the entire concept is flawless, only thing I'd like to see changed is the recipe for crafting a blaze. The only reason I have for this is the general ease of acquiring many blaze rods at a time, as opposed to the other mob crafting recipes which require materials which aren't only mob drops.

I think if the blaze recipe is going to be changed it should instead of the blaze powder use either: a fire charge or: a flint and steel.

Considering Blazes are sort of machine-like in nature, I was thinking about changing the recipe to somthing different.

Fire charges are non-renewable, so it seems like a good option. I'll consider it later once whave finalized the recipes and put them into the All dem dimensions mod.

you put a lot of thought into this! pork 4 u!

i like the idea, and i actually wouldn't really mind this getting added in. although i don't think it should be possible to resserect ALL of those mobs. just zombies skeletons, and zombie pigmen. i like the necro dolls. instead of flesh and wool, you need flesh and bones. and for skeletons, a lot of bones, a bow, and a bunch of arrows. instead of stay, protect, follow, etc. there should just be stay and follow, just like pets. when staying, they will wander around a certain point and attack any monster that comes in their range. these guys should still burn, though.

for the table, how about just like an enchantment table except an eye of ender instead of a book? you must place a necro doll in first, then you must place 10 flesh and 7 bones for a zombie, 10 bones, 10 arrows, and a bow for a skeleton, and 3 raw pork, 5 rotten flesh, and a golden sword for a zombie pigman.

a nice idea, i support!

Only four of those mobs could even be considered undead, so how is it necromancy?

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Fire charges are non-renewable

False. Fire charges can use either coal, which is not renewable, or charcoal, which is.

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False. Fire charges can use either coal, which is not renewable, or charcoal, which is.

Yeah I forgot about that.

When they were first introduced they could only be crafted with coal. I figured that it was still the case when I posted that.

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False. Fire charges can use either coal, which is not renewable, or charcoal, which is.

The idea of using fire charges was only because it makes it use something other than things dropped from the mob used in the recipe. This is so that you can't just camp a blaze spawner and be able to make a giant blaze army.

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The idea of using fire charges was only because it makes it use something other than things dropped from the mob used in the recipe. This is so that you can't just camp a blaze spawner and be able to make a giant blaze army.

Well, I have other things set in place to prevent that anyways.

You need a doll to be able to craft a blaze in the first place, and dolls are rather rare. Since the dolls are consumed in the making of the mob, you can only have as many mobs as you have dolls.

The way I see it, you would be lucky to get just one doll, they would be as rare as apples used to be when they could only be found in dungeons.

You also need XP to create the mob, that prevents any abuse of the system as well, though I suppose you could just make and XP grinder to get around that.

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If all of this would get implemented, the game would have too much emphasis on controlling the undead, which would overshadow the rest of the features. With all these features, controlling undead would be inevitable in the endgame, whether we like bothering with it or not. I would not like to see this in the game, but it'd make a pretty badass mod.

Input: The way I can see this getting in the vanilla game would include a new craftable item, Black Pearls (or whatever). It could be made with 1 Ender Pearl and 3 Ghast Tears (that's how I imagine it, but I leave the details to the devs), making it rare and valuable. This item could be used to hit or throw at undead enemies (no slimes, creepers, Endermen, and for gameplay reasons, no ghasts) which would turn them friendly towards you the same way wolves can be. Everything else would be the same as with wolves, they attack what you attacked, you can tell them to stay, etc. I think this way the feature wouldn't cause too much trouble and their use wouldn't be neither mandatory or overpowered.

Actually, although this is a great idea, it would overshadow everything else. Perhaps these necro dolls are only avaliable after defeating the Enderdragon, or you have to have completed all the achievements, or something like that. That being said, there should be a limit on how many you can have out at a time. Like, you can't have ten Endermen carrying chests and an ender chest in your inventory when you're mining, as that would be entirely stupid. Or perhaps you'd have to earn the power to do so; like defeating __ number of enemies with your creatures before you can have out __ many creatures. But it's still a great idea.

I am serious. Someone make a mod or I'll rage. RAGE AND GO SPONTANEUS COMBUSTION. TOOO MUCH WANNNT.

*Screams due to idea being MUCH too epic. Someone make a *CENSORED*ing mod. NOW!*

Jello. Not sure if you've noticed by now, but I sent you a sprite for the doll.

Oh and this is a brilliant idea that I would love.

Good job!

I like the idea of having a zombie pigmen army protecting all of your valuables