Hi, I'm not sure if its Improved Chat, or Zan's/Rei's Minimap that has changed in a way for 1.8, but i cannot get these mods to work together anymore. By zan's/rei's i mean either.. and they seem like they are the same plugin but different branches from the same source. If you have any Idea I would greatly appreciate it.. i miss having them both like i did in 1.7. Thank You!
i looked at a basic run through of the abj.class files of ICM and RMM side by side.. I dun know java, but it looks like they both call for commands at the same lines in this file and without some code changes I dun think there is a way to run them both in the jar . and on that note i cant even get modloader to work... which could be a whole other story
Yeah, the sad part about this is that in throwing his tantrum and being all pissy about what happened, Rei doesn't seem to realize that n3wton WON. Period. What's more, Rei LET him win. In my mind, he has no one to blame but himself.
The moment that Rei threw a fit and removed the cave mapping and mob radar, n3wton got what he wanted. The childish asshole didn't like part of the mod, flamed and threw a fit, then pulled some underhanded ****. Rei then lowered himself to that level, had a tantrum and gave in.
And no, this isn't about me wanting the cave mapping and mob radar back. It's about letting ****holes like n3wton win by being just as childish as the offender and lowering oneself to their level.
No matter what Rei does now, whether those features are re-implemented or not, it will not change the fact that n3wton WON. That victory will not be diminished one bit by any re-implementation.
The troll won. Even if the features do get re-added, the troll knows all he has to do is troll some more and get them taken out again.
The troll won. Even if the features do get re-added, the troll knows all he has to do is troll some more and get them taken out again.
That's not exactly what I am saying.
The moment Rei threw his own tantrum and removed the features, n3wton won. Even if Rei re-implemented five minutes later and stuck to "they're in to stay no matter the flaming", n3wton still won. As soon as Rei lowered himself to n3wton's level, n3wton won. Period.
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All moderation on forums is biased. Mods and admins do play favorites. Thus there is truly no point in "playing by the rules" since enforcement of said rules is subjective. That is why I refuse to censor my speech and will call things exactly as I see them without reservation.
Hey! I was just wondering if you could put entities radar back on! Im good at protecting my self but when i dont have torches in a cave i need to know if there is a creeper behind me!
ReiFNSK, is there a way to make the minimap re-read the blockcolor.txt file while the game is running? Is there a method I can call in one of your classes to do that? I've got my own little mod which switches texture packs on the fly, and I would like it to also update the minimap colors to match the current texture pack.
With all respect, but this is history. Past. Not now.
So, instead of telling the faults that have been made, tell what you think Rei should do now instead of what he shouldn't have done in the past. More directly: What, in your opinion, should Rei do, without you repeatedly saying 'he already lost'?
Actually, it doesn't matter what he does now. It will not change the fact that n3wton won and Rei let him win.
Rei needs a slap in the face with reality. He was a big baby about the whole thing and denied the community a useful aspect of his mod because he decided to act like a child and throw a tantrum. The more he lets this situation persist, the more in the wrong he becomes, especially since he is stringing along a lot of people who want the radar and mapping back. It is reaching a point now where n3wton takes a lesser share of the blame in this than Rei himself does.
If I am leaning toward anything that Rei should do, it would be to make a final decision on whether or not to re-implement the contested features and let the community know. No matter what decision he comes to, he will make people mad, but that's the price he pays for letting n3wton get to him in the first place. Rei needs to grow a set of balls and make that decision.
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All moderation on forums is biased. Mods and admins do play favorites. Thus there is truly no point in "playing by the rules" since enforcement of said rules is subjective. That is why I refuse to censor my speech and will call things exactly as I see them without reservation.
First, what on earth gives you the right to tell someone what to do or what he shouldn't have done?
This is a public forum. That alone gives me the right to make my opinion known. I gave my opinion on way Rei should have handled n3wton, nothing more.
Also, you're the one who asked me what he should do. I answered. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't give you the right to suddenly take back the question.
Second, why don't you redo this complete thing and do it exactly like in your perfect imaginary world? Shocker: the real world isn't perfect.
That's actually my point. Not everyone is going to be happy. There's no sense in Rei being wishy-washy on the issue since the damage is already done. He needs to make a firm decision one way or the other on whether or not to re-implement those features of the mod and face the fact that no matter what he decides, not everyone is going to be happy.
Also, trying to insult my intelligence by implying I live in a fantasy world is pathetic. Period.
Third, I don't give a damn if you uncensor all your things, but that doesn't mean everyone has to know your opinion.
Funny, I seem to recall you asking for it. All my sig does is give fair warning. You should have considered yourself warned before you suddenly became hostile.
Fourth, Rei has the balls to continue this mod after so much idiots complaining. I don't see the average person do that.
No, he actually didn't. He removed the parts of the mod a minority were complaining about. He caved to a bunch of immature posters and in so doing, became one himself.
Fifth, you sound to me like someone in desperate need of attention and approval. Good luck.
Your opinion of me, quite frankly, doesn't matter. I read through this and decided to give Rei a dose of maturity. You look like you could use the same.
Please don't even mind about answering at all to this post, since I don't give a damn what you think.
Don't bother replying? Why? Afraid of the can of worms you just opened? If you really don't want to what I have to say, there is an ignore button. Use it.
Here's a tip; When you ask someone for their opinion, be prepared for one you might not like. Also, this is a public forum, by reading or posting here, you open yourself up to views that may be contrary to your own. If you don't like it, then you don't have to come here.
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All moderation on forums is biased. Mods and admins do play favorites. Thus there is truly no point in "playing by the rules" since enforcement of said rules is subjective. That is why I refuse to censor my speech and will call things exactly as I see them without reservation.
Okay then. I give an unpopular, though honest, opinion and get insulted for it. Like THAT is mature.
If you want somebody to listen to your opinion, you don't start off calling them names. That's just immature and a good way to ensure the person you're trying to communicate to will just shut you out.
Look, I'm blunt. I have always been blunt and I will always be blunt. If you or anyone else doesn't like it, guess what, there's ignore.
Also, point out where I started by calling someone a name. You can't because I didn't. You made it up.
Second, just because you DEMAND an answer and threaten more crying if you don't get one doesn't mean anybody has to respond.
Wait, what? What the **** is this? I was told to give my opinion to a specific matter, Marik didn't like my opinion and began backpedaling. How the **** is this demanding an answer and threatening to cry? You are delusional.
I'm starting to suspect you're possibly an alt of newton. Just trying to **** Rei off so much he never brings back either of the features. Of course, I'll never be able to prove that.
All moderation on forums is biased. Mods and admins do play favorites. Thus there is truly no point in "playing by the rules" since enforcement of said rules is subjective. That is why I refuse to censor my speech and will call things exactly as I see them without reservation.
I also want to clarify my position on this, though I doubt anyone will pay attention.
This is a quality mod. The map is very good and has some very well thought-out features (such as the load delay). The way it even takes structures into account (unlike Notch's maps) and the lighting are also very nice. My issue is NOT with the mod or its features. With or without the mob radar and cave mapping it is a nice, simple, quality mod.
My issue is with the behavior of Rei through this. An immature asshat got under his skin and Rei is allowing this to continue to affect the rest of the community. It is entirely within his power to end the issue, one way or the other, yet he doesn't do so. That is my issue with this whole thing.
Yes, I come off as a blunt asshole. That is who I am. I call things as I see them and I do not mince words. In my experience, nothing gets accomplished when people do that. If this pisses anyone off, well, they're going to do what they are going to do and there is nothing I can do to change that, just like there's nothing they can do to change how I act.
All moderation on forums is biased. Mods and admins do play favorites. Thus there is truly no point in "playing by the rules" since enforcement of said rules is subjective. That is why I refuse to censor my speech and will call things exactly as I see them without reservation.
Tribblepoo... quite frankly you are tiring me big time
Stop acting as if he gets a lot of money for it. And start acting as if he does it how/when/whatever he likes.
Its not a community project, it is HIS project.
*mumbles somthing about the best steersmen are ashore*
Rei offered the mod to the community one way, then removed features due to the minority opinion. Now he will not make a decision to re-implement those features or not, in spite of the majority of the community being very vocal about wanting them back.
Also, if I tire you that much, there's an ignore button. Feel free to click it.
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All moderation on forums is biased. Mods and admins do play favorites. Thus there is truly no point in "playing by the rules" since enforcement of said rules is subjective. That is why I refuse to censor my speech and will call things exactly as I see them without reservation.
First of all Marik I think you need to advance in maturity a little. Tribblepoo I feel you are allowing your passion to get the better of you. Marik, I agree with Tribblepoo as it appears more than you claim does. I went back 4 pages until I did not see Tribblepoo and I found the following: Only Xlkaaz and you did not agree with Tribblepoo. Lathanael (agreed in general but not on fine points), Zolcos, and Evil Hamster all agreed with Tribblepoo that ReiFNSK was acting in an immature manner over the whole issue.
Also, Marik, since you read every previous post I can only assume that you decided to ignore my previous post as it was not what you wanted to hear. I hope ReiFNSK realizes that as he has allowed you to speak for him and reputation that you incur (good or bad) will reflect on him.
Tribblepoo, I would ask you to please not use vulgar language in your post as children do read these posts.
Let us try to cool the flames of passion and allow reason to decide our actions.
Oh, and if any of the people mentioned here feels I did not understand your point on the matter feel free to let me know.
I can remember you asking for the entities in MP to keep track of some young kids, right? Well, what did you actually expect me to answer? And why didnt' I want to hear it? Just curious, not ment as some sort of offensive/flaming thing to make you pissed or so.
Marik,
I did not expect a certain answer as an answer of some kind which is an acknowledgement of the request. It could have been anything. (I.e. I will let ReiFNSK know or It will not happen or anywhere in between.) I would have liked to have heard that it's a reasonable request and that ReiFNSK will either implement it or make a version for me to use, but it was not required. As for why I believed you did not want to hear it? I figured that you would label it as just another radar/cave map request and ignore it as such.
i looked at a basic run through of the abj.class files of ICM and RMM side by side.. I dun know java, but it looks like they both call for commands at the same lines in this file and without some code changes I dun think there is a way to run them both in the jar . and on that note i cant even get modloader to work... which could be a whole other story
The troll won. Even if the features do get re-added, the troll knows all he has to do is troll some more and get them taken out again.
That's not exactly what I am saying.
The moment Rei threw his own tantrum and removed the features, n3wton won. Even if Rei re-implemented five minutes later and stuck to "they're in to stay no matter the flaming", n3wton still won. As soon as Rei lowered himself to n3wton's level, n3wton won. Period.
Actually, it doesn't matter what he does now. It will not change the fact that n3wton won and Rei let him win.
Rei needs a slap in the face with reality. He was a big baby about the whole thing and denied the community a useful aspect of his mod because he decided to act like a child and throw a tantrum. The more he lets this situation persist, the more in the wrong he becomes, especially since he is stringing along a lot of people who want the radar and mapping back. It is reaching a point now where n3wton takes a lesser share of the blame in this than Rei himself does.
If I am leaning toward anything that Rei should do, it would be to make a final decision on whether or not to re-implement the contested features and let the community know. No matter what decision he comes to, he will make people mad, but that's the price he pays for letting n3wton get to him in the first place. Rei needs to grow a set of balls and make that decision.
This is a public forum. That alone gives me the right to make my opinion known. I gave my opinion on way Rei should have handled n3wton, nothing more.
Also, you're the one who asked me what he should do. I answered. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't give you the right to suddenly take back the question.
That's actually my point. Not everyone is going to be happy. There's no sense in Rei being wishy-washy on the issue since the damage is already done. He needs to make a firm decision one way or the other on whether or not to re-implement those features of the mod and face the fact that no matter what he decides, not everyone is going to be happy.
Also, trying to insult my intelligence by implying I live in a fantasy world is pathetic. Period.
Funny, I seem to recall you asking for it. All my sig does is give fair warning. You should have considered yourself warned before you suddenly became hostile.
No, he actually didn't. He removed the parts of the mod a minority were complaining about. He caved to a bunch of immature posters and in so doing, became one himself.
Your opinion of me, quite frankly, doesn't matter. I read through this and decided to give Rei a dose of maturity. You look like you could use the same.
Don't bother replying? Why? Afraid of the can of worms you just opened? If you really don't want to what I have to say, there is an ignore button. Use it.
Here's a tip; When you ask someone for their opinion, be prepared for one you might not like. Also, this is a public forum, by reading or posting here, you open yourself up to views that may be contrary to your own. If you don't like it, then you don't have to come here.
Okay then. I give an unpopular, though honest, opinion and get insulted for it. Like THAT is mature.
Look, I'm blunt. I have always been blunt and I will always be blunt. If you or anyone else doesn't like it, guess what, there's ignore.
Also, point out where I started by calling someone a name. You can't because I didn't. You made it up.
Wait, what? What the **** is this? I was told to give my opinion to a specific matter, Marik didn't like my opinion and began backpedaling. How the **** is this demanding an answer and threatening to cry? You are delusional.
No, you won't because it isn't the case.
This is a quality mod. The map is very good and has some very well thought-out features (such as the load delay). The way it even takes structures into account (unlike Notch's maps) and the lighting are also very nice. My issue is NOT with the mod or its features. With or without the mob radar and cave mapping it is a nice, simple, quality mod.
My issue is with the behavior of Rei through this. An immature asshat got under his skin and Rei is allowing this to continue to affect the rest of the community. It is entirely within his power to end the issue, one way or the other, yet he doesn't do so. That is my issue with this whole thing.
Yes, I come off as a blunt asshole. That is who I am. I call things as I see them and I do not mince words. In my experience, nothing gets accomplished when people do that. If this pisses anyone off, well, they're going to do what they are going to do and there is nothing I can do to change that, just like there's nothing they can do to change how I act.
Stop acting as if he gets a lot of money for it. And start acting as if he does it how/when/whatever he likes.
Its not a community project, it is HIS project.
*mumbles somthing about the best steersmen are ashore*
Rei offered the mod to the community one way, then removed features due to the minority opinion. Now he will not make a decision to re-implement those features or not, in spite of the majority of the community being very vocal about wanting them back.
Also, if I tire you that much, there's an ignore button. Feel free to click it.
Nevermind. Realized it doesn't need it. My bad.
Excited for "When it's done" to come.
Hands down, the best texture pack.
First of all Marik I think you need to advance in maturity a little. Tribblepoo I feel you are allowing your passion to get the better of you. Marik, I agree with Tribblepoo as it appears more than you claim does. I went back 4 pages until I did not see Tribblepoo and I found the following: Only Xlkaaz and you did not agree with Tribblepoo. Lathanael (agreed in general but not on fine points), Zolcos, and Evil Hamster all agreed with Tribblepoo that ReiFNSK was acting in an immature manner over the whole issue.
Also, Marik, since you read every previous post I can only assume that you decided to ignore my previous post as it was not what you wanted to hear. I hope ReiFNSK realizes that as he has allowed you to speak for him and reputation that you incur (good or bad) will reflect on him.
Tribblepoo, I would ask you to please not use vulgar language in your post as children do read these posts.
Let us try to cool the flames of passion and allow reason to decide our actions.
Oh, and if any of the people mentioned here feels I did not understand your point on the matter feel free to let me know.
Thank you,
Rykazz
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Marik,
I did not expect a certain answer as an answer of some kind which is an acknowledgement of the request. It could have been anything. (I.e. I will let ReiFNSK know or It will not happen or anywhere in between.) I would have liked to have heard that it's a reasonable request and that ReiFNSK will either implement it or make a version for me to use, but it was not required. As for why I believed you did not want to hear it? I figured that you would label it as just another radar/cave map request and ignore it as such.
Thank you,
Rykazz